How to Make a Narcissist Miserable

How to Make a Narcissist Miserable: 12 Things They Hate

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You probably spend a great deal of time feeling defeated and frustrated by the narcissist in your life. You see how they treat other people (and yourself), and it’s appalling.  You certainly know what you don’t like in your relationship. But have you ever wondered how to make a narcissist miserable?

Just for the record, trying to make a narcissist miserable might have its place for a short period of time, but I don’t recommend focusing on it for too long as this will inevitably have an effect on your mental health and energy levels.

But, if you need a quick fix, let’s get into the top 12 things all narcissists hate. 

how to make a narcissist miserable
How to Make a Narcissist Miserable

1 – Lack Of Acknowledgment

It’s no secret that most narcissists revel in admiration and validation (except for ‘closet narcissists’). They depend on constant approval to maintain their sense of intrinsic worth. To achieve this goal, they absorb (or steal) the energy of other people to feel good about themselves. 

Do you ever wonder why narcissists don’t seem to mind the negative attention? It’s because negative attention also fuels their narcissistic fire. The negativity is still attention, and any form of attention gives them the incentive to keep going. It gives them the motivation to keep proving themselves. 

In fact, they often like negative attention better because if you’re still bothered by their relationship crimes, they can exploit this in order to deepen the trauma bond and keep you hooked and entangled!

Therefore, a lack of acknowledgment is a real threat. To a narcissist, indifference is even more of an issue than hatred. They’d rather you have a negative opinion than have no opinion at all.

Narcissists can’t stand when no one is paying attention to them. They don’t know how to feel important or special if they aren’t the center of the universe or consuming someone’s thoughts.  This is also why the traditional Grey Rock method is often pointless and why complete avoidance is the best route (or extreme modified contact if you share children with them).

2 – When People Speak Factually 

Have you ever paid close attention to how a narcissist speaks? They use excessive, long-winded language charged with grandiose emotion. They skew reality to meet their worldview, and they believe their truth is always the truth.

Additionally, through the use of cognitive empathy, they’ve spent their entire lives observing the emotional language of other people and using it to their advantage.  So, when you speak in facts instead of using emotion, they intuitively understand they have less of an upper hand.

Therefore, they hate when someone challenges them with facts instead of emotion. They will usually retaliate with more arguing or hysteria. This childish response simply shows that they feel out-of-control. They attempt to elevate the conversation’s intensity by throwing an emotional temper tantrum.

If anything, this dynamic only highlights the narcissist’s immaturity. Their inability to absorb facts demonstrates their incompetence in approaching most adult interactions. They are not skilled in the language of facts because they are always lying and hiding things, so speaking factually throws them completely off-balance. 

3 – Authority

Narcissists detest authority. That’s because they resent having to answer to anybody but themselves. Any sense of authority threatens their inherent desires for power and control.

It’s not uncommon for narcissists to have issues at work, school, or with the law. Has the narcissist in your life had multiple jobs? Are they frequently getting reprimanded for their behavior?

While narcissists can be intelligent, they often come across as combative and unfit in professional environments. If confronted by their inappropriate behavior, they tend to deny or rationalize their part. 

Of course, it’s no surprise that most authority figures dislike working with narcissists. Supervisors find them unruly and unreasonable. They can’t understand why the person can’t follow basic directions without such volatile reactions.

4 – Being Told No

Of all things a narcissist hates, being told no (and actually following through with it) tops the list. Narcissists are used to manipulating and weaseling their way into getting what they want. 

Often, they’ll pull all the stops to accomplish this task. They’ve spent their whole lives charming people to meet their needs. They never stop to think about how your feelings impact the dynamic. 

That’s why telling them no- and being adamant on your stance- often causes such an angry reaction. A narcissist isn’t just upset about the denial- they’re downright confused by it! 

Narcissists can’t actually fathom why someone would refuse them. Because they lack real empathy, they can’t understand what must be going on in your mind. Moreover, even if they try to comprehend it, they refuse to accept this reality.


5 – Implementing Consequences

Have you ever tried to set a boundary with a narcissist? How well did it go? Most likely, you tried to implement a limit, and they reacted in one of three ways:

  • Dismissing you altogether and gaslighting your feelings
  • Acknowledging their mistake, promising to change, and then doing nothing to change
  • Reacting with intense rage, threats, or even physical violence 

Narcissists can’t accept any real consequences. They can’t see when they’re wrong, and they can’t understand how someone would ever think they’re wrong. And even if the narcissist understood this, they simply wouldn’t care.  As a result, they tend to react disproportionately to boundaries and serious conversations as a means to intimidate you and force you into compliance.

Unfortunately, many people simply give up on trying to implement consequences with narcissists. Because they want to avoid a potential conflict, they surrender and dismiss their feelings. How many times have you avoided setting a real boundary because that’s just how they are?

6 – Losing At Anything

Have you ever observed young children playing a board game? If so, you probably witnessed plenty of cheating behaviors and dramatic reactions to losing. It’s acceptable when the players are three years old, but what happens when you’re referring to full-fledged adults? 

Narcissists can resemble toddlers, in that they tend to be extremely sore losers. They struggle to accept losing, and they also tend to lash out when it happens. A few scenarios may occur:

  • They repeatedly proclaim the person in charge (boss/referee) was incompetent
  • They attempt to defame or humiliate the winner
  • They pretend they didn’t care about winning
  • They insist that they “let the other person” take the spotlight
  • They refuse to accept that they lost and awkwardly act as if they’re the actual winner (you may have experienced this by hearing, after you’ve left them, that they’ve told everyone they’re the one who left you!)

7 – Public Humiliation

Because they are sore losers, narcissists can’t handle real or perceived public humiliation. They just can’t tolerate the threat of failure. To them, public humiliation is the ultimate form of defeat.

We all know that narcissists have incredibly fragile egos. When they believe someone is making fun of them or if they’re not the perceived expert or authority in a public setting, it jolts their existence. As a result, they’ll do anything to protect their fragile ego. Some common responses include:

  • Making violent or emotionally-charged threats
  • Attempting to one-up the audience by turning on them
  • Screaming or yelling
  • Walking away with obvious anger
  • Laughing it off in public only to lash out later on loved ones later 
  • Making up lies about anyone who is a real expert

8 – Expectations of Commitment

Most narcissists are terrible with commitment. Although they believe they deserve all senses of loyalty, they don’t usually provide it themselves. As a result, when they get into relationships, they don’t consider other people’s needs. They’re only accounting for their own emotions, impulses, and desires.

Unfortunately, many adoring partners hold onto wistful hope about their narcissist changing. They listen to how the narcissist praises and adores them. They hold onto fleeting promises that this time will be different.

Yet the narcissist makes all the rules. They decide what they want to do, and they do it when they want to do it. Therefore, they can break and change the rules in ways that suit them. 

9 – Vulnerability And Emotional Expression 

Narcissists often use cognitive empathy to feign interest in other people’s emotions. Real, emotional empathy means putting ourselves in someone else’s shoes. We take on the feelings and experiences of the other person.

Cognitive empathy, on the other hand, is far more insidious and manipulative. Think about the money-hungry salesman who preys on your ambivalence about buying a new car. Think about the general contractor who convinces you that you need to upgrade your appliances.

Cognitive empathy means tapping into someone’s deep emotions and feelings. This tactic requires having an initial connection. Narcissists use cognitive empathy to “gain entry” into your vulnerability. They establish this sense of trust and rapport using false kindness and compassion.

At the same time, they loathe vulnerability and emotional expression. They perceive it as a sign of weakness. Therefore, they use it to take advantage of you when your defenses are down.

10 – 99% Of Other People 

How many friends does your narcissist have? Probably very few. Usually, their only friends are other people who validate their narcissism. 

Subsequently, how often do you hear your narcissist complain about other people? More times than you can count, probably! That’s because a single wrongdoing often results in lifetime resentment. One mistake tarnishes an entire reputation. 

Narcissists struggle to get along with anyone who doesn’t fit into their falsified worldview. They can’t stand to be challenged. They can’t tolerate the ideas that other people may know more than them. 

If they’re a cerebral narcissist, they are convinced that they are unique and should only associate with other special or high-status individuals. In fact, when confronted with anything that contradicts their sense of god-like stature, you can bet that their reaction will be explosive and malicious.

Therefore, narcissists can’t tolerate people who actually live in reality. That’s why you rarely see people with strong boundaries tolerating narcissists for very long. They recognize that the narcissist can’t provide mutual respect, connection, or love.

11 – Your Own Clarity

Above anything, the narcissist hates the idea that you might remember life before you met them. This concern is their greatest fear, and they’ll engage in many manipulative tactics to prevent it from manifesting.

Narcissists use love-bombing to keep you captured and intrigued. They’ll win you over with their charm and wit and cognitive empathy. They’ll make you feel special in ways you’ve never felt before (all through the use of cognitive empathy, of course).

But the narcissist never wants you to think for yourself. If you start doing that, they’ll react. They’ll attempt to break you down and sabotage you. They’ll make you doubt your capabilities and question your motives.

Their goal is to reprogram your mind- and they’ll do whatever they can to maintain their preferred status quo.

12 – When You Change The Status Quo 

Narcissists hate change when it’s out of their control. But when you stay with a narcissist, you remain in a defeating pattern full of resentment and frustration.

If you’re truly wondering how to make a narcissist miserable, the best way is to leave them.  Anything else only feeds into their mind-control games, which makes them believe they still have power over you.  When you choose yourself over the narcissist by leaving the relationship for good, this is the most effective way to show them they no longer have you as their puppet on a string.  

Leaving the narcissist is the ultimate way to humiliate, outsmart, and overpower them.  Walking away and living your life is the best possible way to get back at a narcissist.

Conclusion

In my own journey, until I let go of the idea that narcissists weren’t dangerous, I was powerless to stop the crippling doubts and traumatization I experienced.

Today, after healing myself through the exact steps in The Break Free Program, I experience healthy, happy relationships that are kind, supportive, and fulfilling, and I have absolutely no trouble walking away from anyone who is manipulative or abusive because I feel safe and in ownership of my worth and power.

I want the same for you too.

If you want to become aligned with these truths to actualize your recovery out of the pain and into truly healthy, wholesome, and fulfilling connections, then I’d love to help you.

You can start this journey today by clicking this link.

As always, I eagerly look forward to answering your comments and questions.


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Michelle Hernandez says June 4, 2023

I just left a 30 yr relationship with what I’m understanding is a narcissist!?! Unfortunately I’m still heartbroken and don’t know how to move on. I’m in a whole different state now tending to family matters. I’m also coming to the realization that this person has changed the person I once knew as kind wholesome and genuine. I’ve seemed to have concluded that I don’t care anymore about what people think or concern for anyone to incorporate me into their lives as once before. I simply don’t want anyone to intrude with my space or business of any kind. Inturn found that the more honest about what my intentions in life or anyone in it can take or leave it with no regard in my own life of who they are or what it has become to me! I’m thinking as toxic as the relationship I lived with!! I’ve turned to my spiritual perspective and sought for restoration and conciliation for myself to once again be everything I know to be whole and complete in myself ❤️. Giving up seems to close of a reality to me, and find this repulsive and disappointment to my calling and existence its shameful! May this website give me back some value that makes since. Thanks 🙏 for your service and look forward to reviewing your thoughts.

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Anonymous says June 3, 2023

Very good, I didn’t know I was married to one

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Emily says May 27, 2023

what to do if the naccissist is a sibling.

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Anonymous says May 25, 2023

Leaving is the best way to hurt them.
It’s actually so true. It’s but one fun feature of my very ill mother, but when she knew I was leaving, at her straight in a calm factual way about a few things. She saw I was strong, I always had been so she was always very bent on destroying this. As if it was a personal mission.
Things seemed to be more ” calm and normal whenever I was around for others in my home, a much needed break.
But when I first left, she actually was devastated, following me out to my car, finally. And asking me again, “So there’s nothing you need now from me? Your just going to move and leave? Now my father and I used to remind each other of we needed something, no matter what our how badly we needed it, never, NEVER ask mom, (his wife) as the price attached was too great a price to pay for the favor. We helped each other instead.
She, my mother when asking if there was anything left to help me with gushed in offering suddenly upon knowing I was really leaving. Money, assistance with things she thought I may need, anything.
I knew what she was doing.
I calmly turned down all offers. It felt great as I had her number.
Your dead on about everything you wrote.
Great advice!

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Carol says May 22, 2023

My son’s first girlfriend was not only a narcissist, but also was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, unknown to him at the time. When she saw that he was distancing himself from her, she played him. They now have a 3 year old son. Everything you stated here has happened with her. She has pulled him through nightmare after nightmare, including crashing her car with the little boy in the backseat. It was only by God’s protection that he is still alive! The judge finally saw through her a couple weeks ago and became her worst nightmare , implementing everything you stated above. My son has full physical and legal custody of his precious son, and she has 6 supervised hours once a week. Thank you for the article. Please keep exposing the narcissist agenda!

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    Kim Saeed says May 23, 2023

    I’m so glad to know your son finally got full custody, Carol! That’s wonderful news!

    Kim

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Anonymous says May 21, 2023

I was married for 46 yrs. When my husband passed I fell into a deep depression I stayed in my room just waiting to die for 4 yrs. A close friend finally talked me into going on a dating site where I met my 2nd. husband and my 2 daughters didn’t like him I sold my beautiful home and traveled with my new husband at my expense. He never paid for anything he was on disability and living in a shack actually he was still married to his 3rd. Wife but separated when we met he couldn’t effort to pay for the divorce he said so like an idiot I paid for it it’s been 4 yrs. and we have lived together maybe 3 months out of the 4 yrs. But I keep going back and paying for everything he needs and wants and then things go bad and I leave. He is very disrespectful and is addicted to porn he has never ever bought me anything but I caught him sending money to online hustlers to show him their private parts he has never apologized to me for hurting me when we got married I gave him a very expensive ring and he pawned it I got it out and he pawned it again he is an alcoholic aswell he has nothing to offer me. When we first met he was loving, caring, sweet I fell in love with him totally now he tells me that he loves me only if I tell him first he never gives me a hug never cuddles with me never cares to do anything with me or go anywhere with me he has never taken me on a date not once. He don’t even have intimacy anymore all he cares is that he gets satisfied when he wants it and I don’t matter. The only good thing I got from meeting him is meeting his family they are amazing people that actually warned me time and time again not to get involved with him because he was no good he physically abused his ex- wife’s and he was never going to change. He has terrible road rage that has almost gotten us hurt he has no respect for the law or for anyone for that matter he used to be a drug addict his father was a very abusive man he would beat his mom and when he would try to intervene he would beat him too so he threw him to the streets at the age of 11 yrs. Old he grew up on the streets he joined the navy and got thrown out he turned to drugs for 10 yrs. Now he’s a very angry verbally and emotionally abusive man. I love this man so much but I can’t do it anymore I have to love myself and save my sanity I have to finally walk away the thing is that I still want to have a relationship with my sisters in law we had a informal marriage so I think I have to file for a divorce. I need all the moral support I can get to help me walk away.

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    Emily says May 27, 2023

    move out,save ur kids.no love there.out.living with an animal sleeping next ro it.no.

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Donna says May 21, 2023

Hi there,I noticed you talked about being in a relationship,and how controlling,well this question is really about me sister and her granddaughter.My niece is fixing to turn 16 and my sister has raised her from birth,she was born a lot of disorders, one being her iq is only 59 but she has all of what your talking about towards her grandmother when she can’t do something she will not shut up,telling her she’s old,she’s a dumb bitch,and like you said she does things that no sane person in there right mind would dare at her age,I mean my sister is so beat down,everyday she has to be told she pretty she is,she tells her 5 year old brother g es ugly,but oh my goodness when he tells her that back she’s all over my sister to make him tell her he didn’t mean it she’s çrying real tears,I can’t stand to be around her she’s a bullie I will not put up with it I see what she’s doing.how does my sister deal with all this,from the time she wakes up till bed time she don’t shut up she never stops talking,in oklahoma there no help at all we have been every where in oklahoma not one place has helped,in fact they want her gone asap,

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Anonymous says May 17, 2023

This describes our son in law 100%. Our daughter is currently divorcing him after 8 years of hell, He is trying every which way to stop the process but our daughter now has the strength to follow through with her decision

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glenn says May 16, 2023

I came to this site , because I have never understood what a narcissist is or does, here is the weird thing , I have heard this word bantered about often and have wondered, but have never really understood just exactly what this word means. So for this reason I googled the definition to see if I fit the definition and I landed here, anyway I read through the “12 ways to make one miserable” , and from what I read , none of them make me “miserable.” I guess thats good news , yet , even though I dont see myself as a Narcissist, I think its possible to have tendencies , at least for me , to be one . Does this make sense ? I have mood swings , not because I dont get my way , my “way” is not all that important to me , yet for example , I have had some recent setbacks in my life , not tragic ones , but ones that have me thinking alot about my life , and I will be 70 this winter , and as I look back on my life over the years , I see regret and disappointment , and at times I get sad to the point that I shut out my wife , not wanting to talk about “things.” I just want to be left alone . an example of those “thing” , was my parenting “skills”. Without going into a lot of detail , I was an an overbearing/angry parent to my 3 kids , all of whom are grown . I found out recently , that my oldest son remembers phyiscal abuse I committed to him. I remember one incident where , when he was around 12 years old he took the fall for his younger brother who had urinated on the toilet seat . I grabbed him ( after I cleaned up the mess) by the back of the neck and held his face a couple of inches over the seat, and berated him . I am not proud of this , but it happened . However , this was not the only incident , but it is the only one I remembered until , my youngest son called me and asked if he could use ‘my abuse” in his testimony for something he was doing in church , he too has claimed I physically abused him as well , which I did not . So while we were on the phone , I asked him to give me an example of the physical abuse he was referring to , he hemmed and hawed for a bit , then told me how I grabbed his older brother by the neck and threw him against a wall, which I did not remember doing . My younger son moved back to colorado about 7 -9 years ago , and when he did , called me and asked me to meet him at a national park to talk about my abuse of him . We met , I listened to him tell me how it affected him , it hurt to hear these things he shared , but they were things that in my mind and heart never happened , but I listened just the same and could tell he was struggling , so I embraced him asked him to forgive me , that I was sorry for the pain I caused him. Fast forward to today , I thought it was forgiven and we had moved on , but that was not the case , but the abuse he referred to was never physical , but rather emotional , but still abuse. But what I dont like is , he has told others and now wants to put it in writing , that it was physical. This is why I asked him for an example. When I spoke to my oldest son a couple of weeks later , he told me “Tom” was never abused physically by me . So I asked him about the incident that his younger brother used for his “example” , whether it was true or not , his answer stunned me. He said . “Dad , do you want the truth ?’ I said absolutely I do , he then confirmed what my youngest son told me , then shared other examples of physical abuse . I asked him to forgive me , that I was sorry for traumatizing him . He asked if we could meet and talk about those things, I said yes and we met a couple of weeks later . As I sat there and listened , it was devastating to hear what a jerk I was to my kids , how I treated them. My son is 35 years old , a beautiful son , and responsible , he has 3 kids and a beautiful wife . finally he told me something I had promised myself years ago , and yet failed at , he said , ” Dad , I promised myself I would never be like you .” He succeded , I failed miserably. Sorry about this being so long winded , I dont know how to be short and to the point. But I am grieved in my heart , and just was wanted to share this. I welcome any comments , good or bad . I am re thinking everything . Thank you for reading this.

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Carla says May 16, 2023

I am 60. My mother is a child molester, narc mental and physical abuser, 85 and still grabs my boobs in public. I have gone no contact since dec 23rd 2022. She keeps sending the cops to my apt for welfare check. I give no comments to cops. I’m terminally ill and she accuses me of starving myself screaming into the phone as my disease has taken over 80 lbs over four yrs. So why did I feel guilty on mother’s day?

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    Renee Jansen says May 22, 2023

    Hi Glenn, I read your comment with interest and I admire your courage in posting it. I’m now in my 70’s too and it seems to be an age when we reflect on our lives and our mistakes and failures. I was brought up by a narcissistic father and a mother who was a control demon and addicted to drugs and alcohol. My father passed away last year and in his final two years he lived in a retirement home not far from me, so I could visit him nearly every day instead of living a 4 hour drive away. Now I’m not saying that you are a narcissist in this at all. My father was, and all I ever wanted from him was his love and approval. His way of dealing with that was to leave everything to me in his will. But material things don’t make up for the sense of abandonment and rejection i experienced all my life. I am so encouraged by your story knowing that there is someone who can address these issues and face the people who believe they have been wronged by you. I’m not going to judge their perspectives but I do want to say how grateful I am to you for your courage and how much I respect your taking responsibility for your actions. I’m no expert but it seems to me that you are no narcissist simply by virtue of the fact that you can face up to your part in the family dynamics. I also note your dilemma when you have no memory of some things. I can understand that. Only you and perhaps a therapist can get to the bottom of it. Anyway I think we all have a peppering of narcissistic traits in us and sometimes these traits help us to survive. I wish you all the best and I don’t like to think you are burdened by the issues you have described. I don’t know what you can do about the actions of your sons but people will do what they will do. You have tried to make amends and ultimately you only now have to answer to yourself. God bless,….

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Kathy says May 15, 2023

What if it’s your son? I have let him go for 3 years now. Was that the right thing to do?

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    Kim Saeed says May 19, 2023

    Hi Kathy,

    Without knowing anything about your history together, I will say that if he was abusive towards you, you made the right choice. Sometimes, parents have no choice but to cut ties because not doing so can be utterly devastating. (I’m assuming he’s an adult now).

    Kim

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Anonymous says May 14, 2023

Too bad the narcissist is a student that I can’t just walk away from in the classroom. The whole class suffers because of the outbursts and attention-seeking behaviors.

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Kallie says May 13, 2023

This is my coworker! She use to be a “friend” until I got older and realized that she is nothing but a manipulator and will go to extremes to destroy a person just to make herself look innocent. I work for a small medical practice and she currently has manipulated the newest employee to do all of her dirty work. I love my job and have been there for 13 years but I have seen this individual get fired from our office after year 1 for all of the reasons listed above. I was then stupid enough (Being caught in her tangled web) to suggest her be rehired after 10+ years had passed because I thought it was only a temporary position. Little did I know that she will end up being a full time employee again going on over 2 years now. She has made everyone’s life in the office living HELL and because my employer doesn’t see or hear all of the horrible things she does in and outside of the office our concerns are disregarded. I know exactly how to handle her in my personal life because I have cut her out of it. She also knows where she stands with me at work and rarely engages with me (it a good thing) but the rest of our staff have to come to work everyday living in hell because of her! She will go to any measure to make sure she is in control including lie, cheat, steal and verbally abuse and manipulate my coworkers and at this moment she is winning. It’s so horrible to have to go to work and deal with her everyday but I don’t know what to do to prove to my employer how sick she is!

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    Anonymous says May 17, 2023

    Get all the workers to walk out of the practice and see how she copes on her own .Your boss will see her for what she is

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Catarina says May 13, 2023

A close friend lived with a narcissist for 15 years. They got married, and had 2 beautiful young daughters together. In the end, he couldn’t take it any more and committed suicide.

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Elisa says May 13, 2023

Read this with great interest because I am presently struggling with my 32 y.o. daughter who exhibits many of these traits. Managing to put some distance between us but not without a lot of guilt. She is currently trying to get me to agree to let her move into a newly renovated guesthouse on my property. This after providing several thousand dollars to make sure she has a safe place to live. I have worked very hard for over 50 yrs and just recently retired but do not have enough to provide financial support indefinitely. She is aware of this and more than likely why she wants to move because she has to figure out how to support herself and get a job. Thank you for the guidance, hopefully will hold firm on my decision to enjoy this well earned part of my life without the drama and chaos that she brings.

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    Ann says May 17, 2023

    Elisa, please, under any circumstance do NOT let your daughter move into your guest house. She is obviously leeching from you. As you’ve already given her thousands of $ previously, she sees you as a soft target.

    I can guarantee that if you let her move in, she’ll continue to use you. She’ll empty your fridge, and expect you to keep it stocked. Then be abusive towards you if you don’t have her favourite food. She’ll expect you to pay for her power, phone, car expenses, petrol, clothes, entertainment / nights out.

    You need to realise that her demands / leeching from you is only going to escalate, until there is nothing left of you, emotionally, psychologically and financially. You’ve worked hard, and sooo deserve to live in comfort and peace, and enjoy the fruits of YOUR labour.

    With narcissists, it never ends. I was ‘groomed’ by a narcissistic father from the day I was born. It only dawned on me when I was 51 (I wish the internet was available 40 years ago), when he became hostile and vindictive and instigated a vile smear campaign). I did a lot of research online, and realised he was a textbook covert malignant narcissist. When he went into aged care, it was left to me to clean out his severely hoarded house, which took me 7 months.

    His house and car was sold, and the day the funds went into his account, was the day he told me to my face that he was taking me out of his will. I’m of the ‘old school’ and kept all paper receipts and a personal hand written account book of the expenses I incurred during those 7+ months (numerous skip bins, cleaning and gardening contractors etc).

    From my 1st day at work at 17, I saved hard towards my dream of owning my own home. At 28 and still single, I bought my home. I solely managed my mortgage on an average wage and paid it off in full, well inside the 20 year term. I did finally meet Mr Right, and we bought our forever home together 27 years ago.

    Please guard any financial and banking documents with your life. If need be, a safety deposit box is a good idea. As a last resort, maybe change your accounts to a different bank. A password on your phone is also a safe option. I’m not meaning to alarm you, but narcissists will go to unimaginable lengths to get what they want.

    Above all, protect and guard your mental health. Confide in your close friends and family for support. I’m speaking from experience, as I’m still on anti depressants and anti anxiety medication a decade after my father’s abuse.

    Sincerely wishing you a long and happy retirement without any chaos or drama, xoxo

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    Anonymous says May 17, 2023

    Just say No and walk away

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Susan says May 13, 2023

My husband’s brother ticks all these boxes. He has turned my husband’s father against us (sadly very easily, by playing on all his prejudices and knowing all the right things to say). Maybe for inheritance or maybe just for something to do, or a perceived slight. We are ignoring him and hopefully wont be sucked into his charm and forceful personality ever again, but my husband has lost his father and feels like his mum is starting to forget what the brother is really like too, under a strong charm offensive.
How can we deal with this? Is there any way we can break his hold over the family? We are hoping he won’t be able to control his angry irrationality for much longer and the mask will slip but he is currently getting his own way so who knows how long he will continue his hold over everyone.

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Fontilla says May 12, 2023

This is so correct, I after 37 years left him I became the worst woman in the world. When I left i left everything but my fur baby. And have not returned, he still calls me trying to get me to come back it’s been 5 years now

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Maria Cruz says May 12, 2023

My concern with this narcissist is how my great-granddaughter may be suffering and what danger she may be in. She is going to be 13 in a couple of months. and we have been tested and made to feel horrible, but we have managed, but it appears that not even her daughter is immune to the ways of narcissism. Her mother’s decisions actually hurt her precious heart but she is afraid of the consequences if she fights back. I want to see if we can take her to court before she destroys my great granddaughter but there doesn’t appear a way to do that.

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Hannah says May 11, 2023

I’m in love with a narcissist and I can’t get over it or snap out of it is there any way I can make him realize and go get help I genuinely love him…

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    Kim Saeed says May 29, 2023

    Hi Hannah,

    This video I made a while back might be helpful: https://youtu.be/1CaGAECHOr8

    Kim

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    Lorraine Basden says June 2, 2023

    Hi. That is a resounding NO! He will continue with narcissistic mind games until you either leave or lose your self in his degradation
    RUN!

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Vanessa says May 11, 2023

It was all true!! Im already in the process of letting him goo for 10 yrs my life was really miserable.

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Kristie says May 9, 2023

I dated a narcissist for four years and he moved in with my son and I two years ago. I finally couldn’t take it any longer. I’ve tried to get him out of my home since February of this year. The law is not on my side. The grown man is living in my living room surrounded by his belongings not paying a dime in 5 months. I’ve started the eviction process only to find out today that I have to start all over. I’ve contacted his family and friends no one will take him because he has lied to them over the years. Reading this article there are so many moments that I questioned myself but after reading bring clarity to the situation.

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    Kim Saeed says May 10, 2023

    Hi Kristie. Yes, I found out, too, that in order to make them leave, the eviction process is usually the way to go. But it depends on state laws, too, so can be tricky sometimes. I truly wish you all the best as you continue with your mission.

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Al says May 9, 2023

Every point describes my father who’s 93. He’s a control freak, every conversation turns into him complimenting himself!!! He’s condescending about his so called friends & family; little do they know. How he does it day in & day out I don’t know. He throws tantrums over trivial things . Because I wouldn’t stand for some of his bad behaviour and took him to task for it, he resents me he even told my Mum he researched how he could kill his own child! I locked my room door after that. When I was asked to upload my artwork for acceptance into a special program, he destroyed all except one piece, guess what? He tells everyone I gave him that “spared” painting, I didn’t. He stole all my jewelry, I have to lock the rest of my valuables away. Up to five years ago he bought Italian slim fit designer suits! He’s even bought bespoke Saville row suits before; I wonder where that money came from as my Mum was the earner. Annoyingly people constantly compliment him on his attire, sometimes I pipe up asking them to stop as it encourages him & I’m afraid of how the bills will be paid! My Mum wanted a new kitchen, so my brother & I really gave her a beautiful kitchen; when it was time for them to move back in, he immediately, the same day banged the sofa legs into the newly laid wood floors to dent them (unprovoked just decided to destroy them); then over the next month he rewired & moved most of the outlets/receptacles destroying the newly plastered walls. We had sound proofed all but one bedroom so he moved his speakers against that wall & 3 years later still blasts his music so we can’t sleep; his excuse “it’s my house, I can do whatever I want, don’t treat me like a cur”. Guess what, I’m typing this at 1:40am & he just started blasting music! He deletes tv shows if he didn’t save them or cancels upcoming airings. If he’s being counseled he feigns sleeping. Yes he still has all his mental faculties; which is a blessing. Sometimes he seems to be changing usually takes about 3 days before he finds a way to be annoying & get under your skin. I had vein treatment and was asked to exercise/jog/brisk walk as part of the treatment so he covered the elliptical and said I wasn’t allowed to moved his boxes off of it. My sister moved them on one of her visits & a few days after she left he put them back on! He has rarely put garbage in the garbage bin & has never been seen to take out the garbage, of course he’s old now, but my whole life he’s expected others to pick up after him. If we’re expecting guests he smears jam or peanut butter or leaves crumbs on the countertops; he’s even poured cooking oil on the marble by the stove top, it leaked into the lower cabinets of course. There are worse incidents I won’t mention & as for my poor Mum…that’s her story to tell. I was told by a non expert it’s narcissism, but it’s a relief to hear from an expert that it really is. He’s my dad, so I’m not going to retaliate or be unkind to him, however, I can use these tools to know how to react or not react. Thank you for your insight.

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Vee says May 8, 2023

I despise a narcissist person. They are pure evil. I got away from my narcissistic partner and his life has been bad luck every since.

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Marie Lindsay says May 8, 2023

How can I prove that’s person is a nassicssic and bring a case back to court

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    Kim Saeed says May 10, 2023

    Hi Marie. In my experience, it’s not about proving they’re a narcissist, but proving emotional abuse and distress. Have lots of documentation with dates at the ready. Any emails from them that prove harassment or threats. Any past records from arrests, etc. It also depends on the focus of your case. If you’re trying to prove emotional abuse and how it’s affected your life, you would likely need your therapy records and dates you’ve had to be admitted to the hospital/clinic for health reasons (if applicable). Hope that helps!

    Kim

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Krah Mohammed Hussein says May 7, 2023

Very educative

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Brenda says May 7, 2023

Lived with this person 36 years and finally learned the key to getting some peace from his temper tantrums was to not respond to anything he says. Refuse to fuel his ego or need for authority. My weapon is to remind him of possible public humiliation. To let him think that I am the insane one and refuse to be controlled. Since this I have less 😩 stress

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Nurah Figland says May 6, 2023

For a year i was with someone like this, i lost all contact with family nd friends, i was never allowed anywhere without him or his consent, no social media and if photos were taken he would try to outshine me. He came to my work demanding me to take a break cause he was there and if i didnt he carried me out of the building and swore at my bosses and i had to leave my job- i challenged him and he hit me so that was the strength i needed tp leave him for good, its best to leave when they are not present and also to avoid bringing the police if they are, avoid all contact since they reply to their own messages. When you out and they realize you too strong for them then they move on but still try to see if you willing to take them back

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Lu Lu says May 5, 2023

Wow so true your words so helpful

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Dorothy says May 4, 2023

Have been married To one for 54 yr. This month. He is a womanizer, and had an affair for 2 yr. We r separated now, just found out he is seeing another woman. I am physically and mentally worn out. He had ruined my health. I have pacemaker because heart stayed n A/fib from stress. I am trying to get my life back, I am finally through with him.

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Helen says May 4, 2023

Thank you. You have made the world a difference.

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    Kim Saeed says May 10, 2023

    Thank you, Helen. xo

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Lisa in Alaska says May 3, 2023

Whew! Wow! I have a sisyin law..38 years i’ve been the dog she kicks. Terrible to her daughter. Bless daughters heart she choose to block her out of her and her children’s life.. i now know i have been a pawn in her twisted game. This article brought to light what my husband says.. there is no pill for mean

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JANICEJUPITER says May 2, 2023

I AM CURRENTLY MARRIED TO A YOU ARE SPOT ON WITH EVERYTHING . THANKS FOR SHARING

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Cherlyn says April 29, 2023

I lived with a narcissist for two months after he swept me off my feet. I moved in with him and as your information is told it is the truth. My narcissist went as far as asking me to marry him and bought me a ring. I have boundaries and a six year old that I was not willing to sacrifice this type of relationship in front of him and I was hurt so badly but I was strong and walked away from this environment and never looked back. It was terrible and terrifying.

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Patricia says April 28, 2023

I’ve been married 23 years to a narcissist. He is now dying, and has dementia. I can’t leave him at 65. I would have nowhere to go. I am handicapped from a bad horse accident. I don’t make enough disability SS to live anywhere and I can’t keep work, because I’m slow and have trouble walking. I just started ignoring him, and take care of everything on my own, without acknowledging his bad behavior. This is probably about the best I can do. If I put him in assisted living, I’ll loose my house and would have no way to make it financially. I stay really busy with hobbies and church, but I’m sad a lot. I’ve been told he probably want live more that 10 year’s and he’s in his 7th year. I don’t wish him dead, but just trying to take one day at a time. Thx for the opportunity to get some advice.

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Charles says April 28, 2023

Any tips for when the narcissist is your MOTHER? Makes family life pretty hard.

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    Kim Saeed says May 10, 2023

    Hi Charles,

    I created a video that helps answer this question: https://youtu.be/f-lbaI0FNQA

    Wishing you all the best. Thank you for stopping by. xo

    Kim

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    Carla says May 16, 2023

    Mine has been since I was in diapers. My Daddy was not allowed to have any hobbies. He made hand turned furniture, played the violin, piano, organ and accordion. Loved his CB radio. She shut them all down. Smashed my music LPs, ripped my books ordered with my own babysitting money from school, cut my long hair off, NO friends in the house ever. Insisted in enemas for menstruation pain. I was 11. No movies. No malls. No friends. My parents had no friends at all my whole childhood. I went to a foster home at 13. Girl’s boarding home at 15. Emancipated at 16. Married at 17. Married or lived with five more after that. In counselling since 11. PTSD. MEDS. I can’t seem to find my worth. She took it all away.

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Sandra C Ramos says April 27, 2023

Do these same statistics pertain to a very close family member also, not just people in a relationship or someone you are or were married to? I’m referring to a sister I was very close to when we were young and now for the past few years she has done nothing but belittle me or make me feel like she’s much better than I am and how I resent these feelings coming from her. Every time I used to bring it up to her she totally turns the story around to make me feel so unjust! I’m four years older than her and her birthday just passed. I bought her a gift card with a beautiful birthday card and changed my mind about giving it to her because I didn’t like the way she sort of told me off on the phone about something. She hasn’t called and is probably waiting for me to call her but she has pulled this stunt before and I know she gets fumingly mad hoping I call but she’ll call me in a few weeks and pretend nothing is wrong just to win me over again! Not this time! I’m out of the entire situation and nothing is going to make me go back! I’m doing what all of her longtime friends did and backing away just like them….such a shame for such an unempathetic person!

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Anonymous says April 25, 2023

After almost 30 years of marriage and 6 children I had to leave this toxic situation. My grown adult kids tell me, “dad says only good things about you”. Also, “dad told us all of the bad things he did to cause the divorce”. I didn’t realize he didn’t really tell them everything, a comment came up and i answered who? Your dad? And my daughter said, “ you really ought to think before you puke sh— out of your mouth. Which is how their dad talked to me. My point is, I couldn’t figure out why he would take full blame for our failed marriage and two, he obviously didn’t tell them or “confess” all of his wrong doings to them. Which is why I mentioned their dad in the conversation. Then I became the bad guy again b/c I was not going to “out “ him. Loooooong story.

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Lilly says April 24, 2023

Your words and views are spot on.

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April says April 24, 2023

Thank you for this article. It’s a shame that narcissists aren’t aware of the damage they cause. Not only are they missing out, but they’re trying to keep others from living their fullest lives. We love them only because they’re family members, and wouldn’t choose them as friends, so why endure it another minute? It’s not always easy but the spell can be broken. We deserve better.

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Debbie says April 22, 2023

What do you do when the narcissist is your 41 year old son. Who curses you

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    Kim Saeed says May 10, 2023

    Hi Debbie,

    I created a video that helps answer this question: https://youtu.be/f-lbaI0FNQA

    Wishing you all the best. Thank you for stopping by. xo

    Kim

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Soumya says April 21, 2023

Thank you for this post. The point you make about kids at play is interesting to me. As a parent, I have learnt that little kids go through a phase when they themselves are the center of the world. I worry though about what early parental influences or behaviours foster the development of a narcissist. I see that with many parents, the pendulum has swung the other way in terms of setting boundaries and there seems to be scarce literature or discussion on how to identify and possibly discourage development of narcissistic traits in a child.

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    Kim Saeed says May 9, 2023

    It’s not only the home environment that influences the development of narcissism. Some children have near-ideal childhoods, yet still grow up to be narcissistic/psychopathic. It’s also not good to be so concerned about a child developing narcissism that their childhood becomes rife with strict rules and punishments because this will cause life-long issues. There are a lot of good sources for responsive parenting that help children feel loved and valued, and these approaches are child-centered, which is how all children should grow up. Think about it this way…a child goes through the living room and accidentally knocks over someone’s drink. The child might be spanked and sent to their room or punished in some way for a genuine mistake. However, if an adult walks through and knocks over a drink, everyone rushes to help them clean it up, saying it’s not a problem…it was just an accident, after all. We fail our children with such double-standards.

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Peggy says April 20, 2023

I see some of these traits in my 32 year old daughter that still lives at home. Not all, but a lot. Any suggestions when they are your adult child?

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Anonymous says April 20, 2023

How to leave a narcissist when he threatens to take away kids or suggests he has guns?

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    Kim Saeed says May 9, 2023

    I’d first alert the authorities that he is threatening your and your children’s lives. Get a restraining order and get yourselves to safety.

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Patsy says April 19, 2023

Wow! Went thru something last week with this type of person my husband. 30 some years and he still doing the same thing. Cheating, lying, trying to make everyone think he is holy, go to a church I do mot beleive in. It’s a mess. Working my way through. Its craxy.

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Wendy says April 18, 2023

I worked with a narcissist. Terrible person! Always downplayed times she was acting horribly. She gated when I called her out and defended myself and other colleagues.

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Connie says April 17, 2023

I was engaged to a Narcissist for 7 years. Every point you make is spot on! I only wish I realized it sooner. I got out of the relationship 3 years ago. Saw a therapist first, to validate my feelings. I secretly packed up and left. I knew if I didn’t he would manipulate me into staying. After I left, my family and friends told me how much they hated how he controlled and spoke down to me. I’m a very strong person, who never needed a man to support me. I can’t believe I let someone like that into my life. If you see yourself in the article, get out! They will never change!

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Kathy says April 16, 2023

Love this! Spot on!!

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Sally says April 14, 2023

I was married to one then discovered my stepmother was one as a child I had to create a suit of armour around me for protection and go into my own dream world her intolerable behaviour became tolerable I blocked it out….I saw the common thread with all my bffs who were also narcs always putting me on a pedestal to reel me in I’m still susceptible but now recognition exists where it didn’t before I was in my 60sbefore discovery that abusive behaviour had been narcissism with a whole line of bffs and a husband I was forced to examine the common thread and take a look at what I was attracting because I couldnt stand to do it again

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Marshal says April 14, 2023

Wow, I read this and my ex partner had a lot of these characteristics, and a therapist as well. I only wished I had read this earlier

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Kim says April 14, 2023

I lived with a narcissists for 42 years . Didn’t know what a narcissists was until some said that’s what their boyfriend was. So I looked I t up and thought omg that my husband to a tea. I didn’t really know until about 3 or 4 years ago. And to believe that’s exactly how he was and treated me. He passed away last years and God forgive me I am so much better off. Sometimes I act silly or I become loud and I think or go somewhere and stay all day. I tell my friends I do these things because I can. I loved him x miss his voice and some of his charming ways . But I am so much happier . What’s funny he treated alot like my mother. So I had people telling me what to do and how to do it for 64 years. No more.

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Joanne says April 12, 2023

What if the narcissist is your mother?

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    Kim Saeed says May 10, 2023

    Hi Joanne,

    I created a video that helps answer this question: https://youtu.be/f-lbaI0FNQA

    Wishing you all the best. Thank you for stopping by. xo

    Kim

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Nicole W says April 9, 2023

My husband was married to one of these. Even cheated and got pregnant then had an abortion. Lost most custody of her kids and still claims others are the narcs.

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Robyn says April 8, 2023

Great reading.. Very informative.. Thank you..

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Diane P says April 8, 2023

I’m married to but separated from a narcissist. After 10 years of marriage, I’ve set very strong boundaries. I had found that living with him, I was always in a no-win scenario no matter how hard I tried or attempted to fix things. And with his narcissism, he frequently put himself in situations where he needed help/sympathy so we could never get ahead in our marriage. Since I’m more of a cerebral person, I made myself become more like an emotionally cold fish and worked to keep my emotions out and respond logically with options he could resolve by himself without my assistance. Of course, I had to struggle with his guilting me and saying I no longer loved him. I did what I could to assure him of my love but would behave and sometimes verbally express that I was not getting involved with the problems he created. I learned to “insulate” myself and exude an air of “that’s really unfortunate for you…I hope you can fix it” although inside, I felt my heart was cracking, trying give into him. As a result of years of struggle, he is now going to therapy and seeking help. I am hopeful for him. And I am happy where I am in my own place.

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Tawna Richards says April 6, 2023

I know a narcissist. Everything l read is right on the spot. Well said!

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Leia says April 6, 2023

After being in a relationship with a narcissist for 5 years, married another 28 years and separated for 4 years today this has opened my eyes finally to see the damage he did in my life. Thank you❤️

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Nancy R Lawrence says April 5, 2023

This was so very helpful to me ..

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Tonia Purgason says April 5, 2023

What if the Narcissist is you own child?

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    Kim Saeed says May 10, 2023

    Hi Tonia,

    It depends on their age, but I created a video that helps answer this question: https://youtu.be/f-lbaI0FNQA

    Wishing you all the best. Thank you for stopping by. xo

    Kim

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Clifford says April 4, 2023

How does a mother leave her narcissistic 57 yr old son who is homeless . Addendum, I see from comments these are problems from couples . My problem is my wife’s relationship with her narcissistic son she just won’t cut the apron strings it becomes my problem now but I can’t get her to see it have had to live my whole married life with her son manipulating her with strategy like he will commit suicide if she does not do as he wants he is now 57 was living in our home to his 40 th year when the police removed him after threatening me he was placed in hostel accommodation I divorced myself from him but his mother still believes he is her responsibility to satisfy her need to be seen as a good mother . All this narcissistic behaviour from the son has been a blight on my life for 54 years .I add that he is arrogant also to his other narcissistic traits.

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Miki says April 3, 2023

After 27 years I’m on my way out. Have left home, looking forward to ending this chapter in my life. Thanks for this eye opening article.

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Julie says April 2, 2023

I’m a depressed mother of two . Was in a-relationship with a narcissist for eight years. I was mentally,emotionally and physically abused. Me and my kids are still traumatized. It’s been two years since we left but still hurts. But I chose to leave forever. I’m so broken my self esteem is too low. Even after I left he constantly curses me out tries to manipulate me not supporting the kids anymore. I’m trying so hard to stay stay strong and focused for me and my kids.

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Laura House says March 31, 2023

Everything described fits my narcissist to a ‘T’.
ESPECIALLY 3,4,5
Authority,being told no, and consequences.
And 7,8
Humiliating me, and control…
But he’s my 14 year old son. I can’t actually leave him.
His go-to is retaliation.
Any snippet of guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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Karin says March 27, 2023

I am happy to have myself back!

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Laura says March 23, 2023

I got a psychological assessment during my relationship with a narcissist. I have been out about 7 months and have been seeing a therapist who specializes in helping people get out of abusive relationships weekly for over a year.

I have asked my psychiatrist to schedule a new psychological assessment for 3 months now, as I was in the thick of the emotional and mental abuse during the first. She claims that there’s no need, I feel there’s a great need since I was controlled so intensely during the 1st.

What could I tell her to express my opinion it would be beneficial to my journey to see a specialist?

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    Kim Saeed says March 26, 2023

    You should absolutely get a new assessment. It’s extremely unfair for you to have taken an assessment while under the duress and influence of a toxic relationship, especially if you have been labeled with a lifelong diagnosis. Yes! Please keep pushing for a new assessment, and if they won’t refer you, do it on your own. In fact, if I were you, I would work to have this person’s diagnosis retracted. The fact that they’re hesitating to help you is concerning, and perhaps even against ethics.

    We are moving away from the mental health model where everyone is diagnosed with a disorder, especially when a lot of how we think, perceive, and behave has to do with some kind of trauma.

    Kim

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Maxx says March 23, 2023

what if you love your narcissist, in spite of all the pain, he causes what if you still want to spend the rest of your life with him do I have to except him the way he is I do we have a chance at both of us being happy and prepared for the rest of our lives.

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    Kim Saeed says March 23, 2023

    You can certainly choose to spend the rest of your life with him…but the chance of actually being happy is slim to none. Abusive narcissists generally get worse as time passes.

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Susanna says March 21, 2023

I just got out of a relationship with one he was verbally abuse me for a while I was with him for 15 yrs , He always told me be quiet no talking , and would say I will smak you in the face if I did not shut up, My heart is broken I feel bad my self esteem is so low right now , he always said I was to fat ;( anyway I plan seeing therapist soon

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Carmel Echols says March 21, 2023

Thank you my boyfriend is a narcissist. I’ve been with him off and on for the last 6 years I left for one year and was doing so much better in my emotions and health but he had a lot of tragedy happen all at once his house burnt down and his daughter died also his mother died all last year and he has had about 11 strokes and has no one to help him so I came back to h help him now I don’t know what to do.

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    Anonymous says May 5, 2023

    Run

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Gloria says March 20, 2023

Excellent article! I was married to a narcissist for 26yrs until the day I decided to take my life in my own hands. moved 1000 miles away so he couldn’t follow me at work or had
people giving him feedback wherever I went. His world tumbled when he no longer had control of my life!!

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    Kim Saeed says March 26, 2023

    So happy for you, Gloria! 🙂

    Kim

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Nancy says March 18, 2023

I have a mother who is exactly every point mentioned on the article, i can’t go anywhere to avoid her

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David M Nunemaker says March 18, 2023

Going through this situation with my sister and brother-in-law , needing held!

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Luz says March 17, 2023

That’s so true my husband is like that everything in here describes him so perfectly

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Catou says March 15, 2023

Five years wasted with a narcissist. The lying was intense, that my head is still spinning with it all. When I’d confront him with those lies, boy, did he lose his sh*t, like a child. Quite the sight to see, of course, behind closed doors; his reputation was everything. It’s almost a month I left him, and I’m so happy. Looking back, there was no happiness only lies; he lies to everyone in his life, constantly. It’s disgusting.

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jodydillow says March 15, 2023

This particular article hit home with me so much it’s scary.

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Veronica says March 15, 2023

I was married to a narcissist for 35 years. Everything said is spot on. Up to the day he passed he was mean and angry. He couldn’t even look me or tell me he loved me. No matter what I did to help him, it wasn’t good enough. When he told his daughter and son in law how much he loves them and wouldn’t acknowledge anyone else, made me very angry and cried alot. When he did pass I was so very angry at him for the way he was throughout our relationship, it took a lot of help from family and friends to let the anger go. It was really hard because when I met him he brought me up and out of a bad situation in my life. We were very close until we moved away from his family. Then like overnight he changed and got worse as time went on. I stuck with him because he was sick for years and had no one to take care of him or put up with him. I’m finally able to be happy now and move forward in my life. Thank you for what you wrote. It has really been an eye opener for me. Even though I always new there was something wrong with him and later I found out he was a narcissist.

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Fran says March 13, 2023

I agree 110% with what you said. I am going to add a however ~ It’s a different ballgame when it’s your failing ninety -two year old mother. You just can’t leave them. Up until nine months ago she was still working for a bridal shop, driving, maintaining her own home. Business got slow and her services were no longer required. She had a fall, broke her hip and femur. It’s been a long haul. Hospitals, nursing rehabs, myself staying with her for many weeks, for the family with her being who she is and now she’s taken two falls within the last eleven days by not complying with physical therapy. She’s becoming weaker BUT!!! She can manage. So many things at play at this point in her life and she still insists that she knows what she’s doing ~ Furthermore, she is absolutely adamant about living in her home alone. As a family that cares we are so saddened to witness all this ~ just thought I’d share ~ ♥️

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Anonymous says March 12, 2023

What happens when the narssist is your adult daughter?

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    Kim Saeed says March 19, 2023

    Here’s an article I wrote on the topic. I hope it helps!

    https://kimsaeed.com/2018/04/03/how-to-deal-with-adult-narcissistic-children/

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      Anne says April 9, 2023

      I’m currently married to one for almost 5 years and together total for 14 years. I’m beyond done with being blamed for everything and the one making things up. Now seems things are just done to drive me crazy. My kids deserve to have a chance at a normal childhood. The level of bribery and immaturity still blows my mind. I’m working hard to get my own place and move forward with and healthy.
      I even notice my health is always sluggish and tired. We need out and working hard to make it soon. This point I can write a book! ?
      But I know my kids and I deserve better and I’m doing my best to make it happen!

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      Dennis Gregg says April 22, 2023

      As im reluctant to to reply to what ive just read for fear of realy doing something this time about my life unsure of what I could do at 71 when I know I should have long ago I fell like I have no place to go. And by not leaving long ago im getting what I deserve.

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Anonymous says March 12, 2023

I have a friend who is in a relationship like the one you just described I have tried to help him and told him to just walk away and he does but she calls him up and starts talking to him working on his brain and he is back in the same boat again it’s like he can’t break away from her and it’s sad because he is a really nice person but thank you for sharing I will try to keep all the things that you have pointed out and tell my friend to use them thank you

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Cecil Ryan says March 10, 2023

Ok, yes, they seem to be all the same with only a few nuances that in hind sight do not seem
to matter.

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Mary says March 10, 2023

Very informative about narcissistic people. Many of them in today’s world.

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Anonymous says March 8, 2023

Amen I was
married to one for 17 miserable years. Thank God he cheated got divorced and he’s all alone.

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Eric says March 7, 2023

Absolutely spot on!

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Cristina Rodriguez says March 3, 2023

Thanks so much!

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Isabelle says February 28, 2023

Wow! This is gold! Its the better description i have ever heared in my hole Life about that kind of people. Thank you for all your différent way you give to get rid of that sooooooo toxic people!!! ♥️♥️♥️

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Myrna Franceschi says February 27, 2023

So I believe that’s who my husband is, but I think he won’t admit it. But who cares, I don’t, he has change with me and I know why but I really don’t care, he can do with his life what ever he wants. I don’t need him anymore. And I don’t want liar people in my life. I’m done with him. ? Chao

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    Diane P says April 8, 2023

    @Myrna I’m no psychotherapist, but I have found from my own experience being married to a narcissist that anger doesn’t help. Anger is another emotion that a narcissist easily taps into. Anger is wild, unpredictable,chaotic. Narcissist thrive in chaos. I learned that having a calm, mild temperament, setting firm boundaries and developing a deep love for myself by acknowledging my self-worth and real needs has done wonders for me. As for him, he’s really confused… LOL

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Anonymous says February 25, 2023

Donna milligan is my name, I live with a narcissist everything you said about him fits him to a tea he has got the worst anger cursing filthy mouth on the face of this Earth he jumps down my throat in my face he charges me I’d rather come to team a wolves or lions or Tigers or gorilla’s then to face him hes always controlling manipulative hes always trying to ruin mine in my oldest son’s life and sometimes I think my oldest son has some of them ways too And on top of all that he is a very very bad extreme alcoholic and now I think hes into some really bad drugs and he flips out hes so deed one time we had to call the MS to save his life He trips out bad on drugs hes taken 3 or 4 different things hes very destructive oh my God hes always trying to throw things around the room slap it you name it he does it and hes lazy he don’t clean up after his sale hes a pure pig and the list goes on and on and on I prayed that God taken a really good I mean I’m sick AM hes been like that since he can talk and walk hes disrespected me hes called me out of my name hes curse me he sends so many other things to me he stole for me my If so security he busted my windshield in my car is hes evil hes evil I’m telling you hes a evil I’m telling you hes a evil son and hes only in his middle thirties

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Kat Conlin says February 25, 2023

Very sad to say my grown bpd daughter seems to show many of these traits.
She has my only Grand daughter and has chosen to exit my life as a means of punishment.
Mind you ..all it took was a different outlook on things that she chose to do. I am no longer willing to be painted as a villan. Aat 68 Mom deserves peace.

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Ezra says February 23, 2023

Spot on. So accurate that I’d love to save this Article.

Thank you for sharing this Master piece, I’ll call it.

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Eleanor Black says February 21, 2023

I was married to a narcissist, you are truly on point with your advice. Thank you

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Christina says February 20, 2023

So what to do when the narcissist is your older brother?
luckily i got married to a man who has done all the things my brother fear… (like starting our own business)
My brother cant stand the sight of me and my hubby and we newer see im anymore ?

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Shannon says February 20, 2023

So I have a comment about my narcissist. We or rather I drive long haul semi truck. My husband and I get into arguments all the time it seems lately… and getting worse. So he feels it’s my job to get home things from the truck stop when he can just as well do it himself. So the other day he got severely angry when I wouldn’t go in . The punches the hood mirror of my truck and broke it. I had to report it and he is no longer on the truck. But when he was confronted about his behavior by our dispatcher, he got off the phone and said I had “thrown him under the bus.” He thinks everyone is stupid and he is the only smart person in his world. I can’t tell you how many times he claims I have thrown him under the bus. So needless to say he is very angry with me and won’t speak to me. So I think I’m going to anger him even more by not acknowledging him when he does decide to call or text me. Just a small tidbit into my narcissist

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lyna says February 18, 2023

hello, im 72. narcc husband 84. married 36 yrs. i see more now after retirement. always knew something was wrong with him. i ignored him and his out bursts. im the 3rd wife. i get it now why wives got a boyfriend. hes a drunk and drug user. mean, nasty. what have i done to deserve him. no love betwn us ever. i had a kid needed xtra paycheck. he hates to answer me. he has child tantrums. intense violence and rage. every day im threatened.

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    Concerned citizen says February 21, 2023

    My mother was a doormat to 2 men, and I told my potential wife that she had to always be able to take care of herself, so that she could leave at any minute of any day.

    If she ever felt threatened or insecure, or over all just felt like there was more negative than positive.

    For the life of me I don’t know why women stay with someone like this. You are enabling the behavior when you dont shut it down immediately. I told my wife this exact advice when we met before we even considered being eternity partners.

    If your partner exhibits behavior you arent okay with you MUST shut it down right then and there. If not you just enabled it and it will show up again.

    This isn’t just a pattern in narcissists, it exists across all domains. There’s always one person testing to see how much you will let them get away with.

    Shut it down right now or you will waste the rest of your life. My mom hid behind religious nonsense. God didn’t ever want divorce. I told her then God is an idiot! The Bible was written by men, men have always done corrupt things. I’m sure they put that in there for their best interest!

    I don’t know who or what God is, but I know he isn’t that. Someone who would tell you to be someone emotional punching bag for all eternity because you choose poorly in the mate you decided to spend forever with. That’s just nonsense!

    Leave him!

    I know that narcissists are so damn charming when you actually tell them you are done and you are leaving, but don’t fall for it! Just leave. You probably think about this often, “Why did I stay this long”. Guess what that will only get worse with more time! Get away from that person, it’s that really who you want to spend your final days on earth with? Tell him if he gets clean, no drugs or alcohol at all and takes a drug test at the clinic of your choice that you will consider it, but until then you CANNOT stay.

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    Yolanda says March 11, 2023

    Please get out! 36 years or not, you’re better off alone!

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    Lin says March 22, 2023

    It’s never too late to get free. You don’t deserve this kind of life. I was married to a narcissist for 15 years. Separated from him 25 years ago but when I stopped communicating with him he then turned it on our two sons. They have both been so traumatized that they can’t have healthy relationships. I feel guilt for not recognizing that even when he was just abusing me verbally, he affected our sons. I thought they were immune to his behavior. But what I will say is I love the freedom I have to wake up and do what I want with my day, to meet my friends or work on things in my community, even just go to the library without having to give him an explanation. So you can do it. Take the rest of your life and live it to the fullest, even if that just means getting up in the morning, spending the day relaxing and going to bed at night without fear. It’s hard to take those first few steps, but if you can get as far away as possible and don’t let him have your phone number of address. You need to be free of him and don’t even give him an inch of space to move in on you. Don’t feel sorry for him, don’t communicate with him. Get yourself a counselor who will go through this with you and help you heal. Life is good, don’t let anyone make it bad.

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    Alan says April 16, 2023

    Already had 2 Exes…..I assume he already drank & used drugs….(maybe you with him‼️ ?) There was “no love between you, EVER” but you still married him….you had a kid “for a paycheck⁉️”. (Poor kid….?) a narcissist he may be……but what’s the name for a person that seems to crave abuse⁉️ ?

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Margaret says February 17, 2023

My ex is definitely a narcissist. He is now manipulating our children. They have moved out of my home and into his. What can I do? The law where I live supports their decision to do so, as they are 12 yrs and over. I see through his games, but they don’t. Please advise!

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Sandra Jean Ball says February 14, 2023

Borrowed money to get away and ran for my life 23 years ago after a 18 year marriage, 2 sons, and a daughter. My “cop husband” was cheating, mentally, and physically abusing me. How the hell did I get there?
We just lost our 34 year old son 8 months ago. He started his manipulating and pretending to be kind again with me. He and his wife are both crazy. She obeys him and told me in the past he abused her.
I don’t speak to either of them. It is sad it had to be this way for my other kids. I won’t play the game!
I love my life and choose to be happy. I ran away to another state 23 years ago. I just moved to a place 4 miles away from him. I have no fear of anything today.
God is good and I love having confidence and a beautiful life. Single 14 years.
???

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Carolyn says February 14, 2023

Great Advice!

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Anonymous says February 14, 2023

I left my relationship of 34 years 2 years ago. I was a prisoner in my own home. The name calling and controlling was terrible. I left and didn’t look back. I do live by myself and I’m very happy. He still tries to communicate but I’m not having it. No one will ever talk or treat me like he did ever again.

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Kaitensatsuma says February 14, 2023

Exceptionally well written.

“Get Out” is the only valid course of action. They aren’t going to magically get better and they basically need a fulltime, literal babysitter to function.

Don’t be that babysitter. Don’t be the punching bag. Don’t be the hate sink. Anything they do should be forgiven and forgotten, but they’ll literally dig something up from twenty years ago to try to make you feel bad.

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Claudette says February 13, 2023

I spent 40 years married to a narcissistic abuser. When I had a total breakdown I finally left. I swore to never put up with that again!! Now I live in government housing due to bad health and disabilities. The apartment manager here is the poster child for narcissism!! But I’m standing up. Not just for myself but for the others here that are being abused by her! Great article!! Thanks for sharing!!

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Maggie says February 8, 2023

This is exceptionally well written!

Unfortunately we lost our son to his Narc wife after we finally got sick of her treating us so badly it was affecting us mentally and monetarily.

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Rose Matos says February 8, 2023

I lived with a Narcissist for over 20 years and I’m still affected by what his behavior was about!

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Melissa says February 8, 2023

I’m at the end of a 23yr marriage to a master narc. Every moment is a struggle to keep going forward.

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    Keith says February 26, 2023

    Me too ,,,, exactly what I’m trying to do,,,, I’m stuck !

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Marla says February 8, 2023

Wow! I felt like you were telling all about someone I just ended a friendship with! Thanks for validating my feelings about staying strong and doing what’s right!

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Terry says February 7, 2023

I have no choice in my life but to get out of relationship and move on it’s destroying me my life and everything I ever cared about with a little hope I might find me again.

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Keri says February 4, 2023

This is probably the best roadmap explanation and advice I have seen UTD. I was in a relationship for 5/6 yrs with a person who I had a son with. The father ended up dying, but my son is a very scary spitting image in many ways, and he was not raised by his father. I believe with all my heart these ppl need help. Their brains are miswired, or they were raised in emotionally abusivive house/ parents. If you find yourself answering yes to any of these, it’s time to GTFOT. I waited too long,and have severe PTSD. The most intriguing part about this is, I am and always have been very independent, strong, capable, courageous, fearless. That’s why it is so very scary. Just leave. Say you’re running for cigarettes and never ever return. Leave everything behind, except what you 100% cannot live without and it has to fit in a purse/ backpack. Get as far away as possible and leave no forwarding material laying around. It’s your only hope, your only chance to reclaim your life, and never ever ever look back no matter what . Good luck to those who take this advice. Reclaim yourself worth and get to living again . Peace ☮️

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Marlene says February 4, 2023

My daughter in law fits ALL of this…to the point she has my sons head so twisted he stopped talking to me & his siblings for almost 10 years. 3 years ago we all reconnected, I knew deep inside that she opposed the reconnecting & was just going through the motions. I was right because she started it all up again, only this time she got all bent out of shape saying my son’s family members were harassing her father and sister, which no one was. She started making up lies about her husband to all of us, & lies about my Grandsons ruling the marriage ( my son had full custody of them), wanting them out of her house, so she got her way the older one turned 18 & left the younger one is 16 & went to live with his mother. They have 2 children together 10& 7 that I met for the 1st time 3 yes ago, which she now has sworn once again I will not see anymore more. Since all this ruckus started again with her, I have been speaking to my son which she cannot stand, so I would only talk to him when she wasn’t home, while he was at work, or just sitting in his car. On September 12th, 2022 my youngest son Jason passed away, his brother lives in Florida and was set to come her to Chicago for his wake…I told my son that him & the younger boys were welcomed to come but not her, my son that lives in Florida got quite upset that she was not allowed, knowing that the both of them couldn’t stand each other…so what would be the point of her being there. I haven’t spoken to him since, he NEVER came to his brothers wake….because of HER. Which upset the whole family & many friends to the point of disownment. I feel very different about my son now…I still love him, but this is all his fault also, fir allowing her to do this all over again, I’m beginning to think she has won him to the point of no
return this time.

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Helen says February 4, 2023

I lived with one for a long time and made me into a mouse. I had no thoughts of my own.

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Lorraine says February 1, 2023

I am a very late bloomer, and was victim to a master minded Narc. Enrico Jane’s Adonis.
I’ve read through your entire write up & found myself nodding and identifying with almost every fact. Through all the pain & headache I am mighty OK today.
Cheers to growing up

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Jackie says February 1, 2023

I thought I was reading about my 3yr old grand daughters father. My daughter isn’t married to this clown, thank God, took her to court after doing nothing for 2yrs. We have been providing this whole time gladly. This little girl is everything to us. Now he thinks he wants and will get full custody lol. He comes to my home for visits 3 days a week only talks about her respecting him and her elders, lies about her saying daddy don’t go when visit is over, she barely knows him so that doesn’t happen. He made fun and put down my 5yr old grandson in the past and that was it for me and my husband he’s lucky to be breathing but he forgives us for every thing. This guy is a fool. I could go on forever but thank you for writing this article because I new it wasn’t us it is definitely this clown that has a problem and now I know what to do. Thank you!

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Bon says January 30, 2023

What? Me too. 43 daughter and foster sister 53. They are horrible. I was so hurt. I did exactly what was suggested. And the relationships after trying for many years to mend. They both love drama and manipulation. They are miserable and want everyone else to follow along with their misery. Ending the relationship with the most important thing to having a contented life. I am now in trouble of my own future and they are not included in it! So wonderful to hear that I’m not the only one in an isolated situation. Thank you for sharing. My heart has lifted even more.

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Basil Bronson says January 30, 2023

I’ve been married to a narcissist for almost 55 years. It has been very difficult.However, I love her and I feel very responsible for her because she can’t take care of herself and as you well know, she doesn’t get along with other people. I just hope that she makes it to heaven. My daughter was a little ticked off that I told our nurse practitioner that she was a narcissist. She has changed pharmacy because she is angry with them and thinks it’s their fault that her prescription was sent to the wrong pharmacy. I tried to tell her the difference in the situation to no avail. It never ends. I can say something positive and she will sometimes twist it. Gotta have it her way, negatively and all. ATTENTION!ATTENTION!! ATTENTION!!!

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Bruce says January 29, 2023

I worked with a Narcissis and it was miserable for all of us that worked directly with them. We would be having a conversation and they would walk up and take over as if we were waiting for them. Always negative unless they were in a good mood, and then they would trash who ever was on their list for the day.

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    Dianne says February 11, 2023

    So true Bruce. I’m a supervisor to an employee like this. Always takes over the conversation & criticizes people. This article is spot on. So dramatic with everything. It’s difficult to manage a difficult person.

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Sylvia says January 28, 2023

I have a 43yrs daughter and 56yrs old sister who have this narcissistic personality disorder. They are as thick as thieves and my emotional life was becoming a mess. I have done much research as knowledge is power and it’s wonderful to feel strong again and not care what they say or do as I have distanced myself and walk away, gone no contact from the sister who is actually a monster in disguise. Blocked on what’s app, blocked her on Facebook and basically just enjoying the freedom of no contact or drama in my life. Of course the family hear a terrible side of the story and that’s fine, have distance myself from the whole family and never been happier. I am over mourning the loss of a family and the peace and freedom I feel is liberating. You article covers it 100% every detail is correct. So great to read and know that everything i have experienced with them was not about me but them. This has left me very distrustful of people and on my gaurd. But building my identity and boundaries and enjoy who I have been created to be.
So important to build yourself up by doing motivational seminars and believing in your God given abilities. We are born to thrive and enjoy life, not live in pieces. Listen to alot of Tony Robbins on utube. He certainly helps strip Way the negative layers and helps you rebuild your self to live your best life. I pray all people who have suffered at the hand of narcissists find the courage within to break free. ?

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Sharon says January 28, 2023

For Janie, I am deeply sorry to hear about your son. I would encourage you to contact a counseling service (some of which offer free or low-cost services) so you can receive support and also be provided with information about resources that can help you with housing. In some areas Catholic Charities will offer counseling to all, regardless of one’s religion, and will offer it for a reasonable fee. Some people find comfort in speaking with a religious leader.
I hope this helps.

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tina says January 26, 2023

I’m having a hard time getting over him he has no problem moving on

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Danita Mills says January 26, 2023

This was my life. I began to think I was going crazy. He was so good at manipulating my friends to believe I was the one in the wrong. I had known these people for years, and they had only known him for months. He is gone from my life now. I still live with the damage he caused me. When I think I have moved on and done better, someone will do or say something that will trigger me, and I go right back to that state of mind and feeling throughout my body. I am truly blessed I have a supportive family and who is always there when I need them.

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Randa Jahns says January 22, 2023

All the “above” describes the person I lived with and still live with ( in a distance). Narcissist Pure!?
I thought I was going out of my mind…until I realized that He is not normal. I am still hanging on but my mind and soul tells me it is over.

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Tina Lee says January 22, 2023

I was married to 1 for 12 miserable yrs. Divorced now!!! Can’t trust a man, he cheated, lied to me Since we met. The depression, anxiety and PTSS is severe still in counseling and on meds to deal with everything. But I’ll get thru this. But it’s a hard thing to see while you are with a narcissist. Leaving is painful, but liberating!!! Only now do I see how badly I was mentally and emotionally abused during this relationship. It’s so clear NOW!!!!

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    Sara says February 5, 2023

    I was there too and it has really taken a tool on me and being able to be in a healthy relationship again. What is healthy? I was controlled and made to believe I was the problem all the time.

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Mary says January 21, 2023

Very good and informative

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Ellen Herner says January 17, 2023

This describes our son to a T. We finally had to go with no-contact. He’s been married 3 times and this last woman is the sweetest, kindest, most loving woman I have ever met. I love her so very much and I find myself in the horrible
Position of wishing she’d leave him.

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    Miss Jesse says February 19, 2023

    I also have a son whom I had to completely distance myself from. He had a wonderful girlfriend who he abused and treated terrible. I think she’s finally walked away. I hope so, for her sake.

    I was done being blamed for everything that went wrong in his life. I believe he is worse than just a narcissist. His dad is a diagnosed sociopath. I think he is also.

    Although I love my son, I do not like his behavior and will not be his victim.

    I had to separate myself from my mom, too. She’d crushed me one too many times. I was sobbing all the way home when I heard God say “Leave it. Let me.” I did. It took nearly 3 years, but she came to me and has watched herself since. What a freeing experience!

    Life is too short and precious to allow it ruined by nasty, self-absorbed people. Fill it up with your own kindness towards others.

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      Cindy says April 13, 2023

      My ex was, is. I’m pretty lucky, my kids are out living their lives and I would love to see them more but they need to be them and grow. I try to every month or two let them know how very proud i am of them and what amazing young adults they are and what they have accomplished .

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Shanda says January 17, 2023

I enjoyed the article

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Laura partridge says January 17, 2023

I was married to one for 16 years, and finally left. It took me years to find myself again.

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Carina says January 17, 2023

I’m going thru a divorce with a narcissist. Definitely, on point and it’s always about them. They could never do wrong.Always looking for Attention at any cause. Even thought it’s been really painful to go through this. I how can be at peace and have tranquility.

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Caroline Diamond says January 16, 2023

That was fantastic reading, seriously it was everything I thought and felt. I’ve left him so I’m in control and he hates [email protected]! Thank you ?
Caroline

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Dixie says January 15, 2023

I divorced married to a narcissist for 20 years and finally kicked him out when my boys were 11 and 7 I didn’t want him to constantly humiliate and belittle them the way he did me now 22 years later he is still his same miserable self and ended up with no one not even his kids (his doing not them) well for me now 65 and retired and although still in therapy I have not allowed anyone to control me like that since. My life is my own and nobody will ever mess with it again.

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Bev says January 15, 2023

My husband of 31 years is a narcissist We have two grown daughters together that I love dearly. My fear is that he will alienate them (through lies) from me if I separate from him. How do I defend myself to keep them in my life?

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Heatherd says January 15, 2023

I grew up with a narcissist mother. You described my childhood and all that I have gone through. Without a loving and caring Dad, I may not be here today. God rest your soul Dad. I Love you Dad????

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Heather Dodd says January 15, 2023

I grew up with a narcissist mother. You described my childhood and all that I have gone through. Without a loving and caring Dad, I may not be here today. God rest your soul Dad. I Love you Dad????

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Rose Knox says January 14, 2023

Thanks for the information. I will use what you shared starting today.

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Debbie Williams says January 11, 2023

Wow. Reading this article is like facing my oldest sibling and her husband. They are the perfect example of narcissism. They raised their 4 children in that atmosphere and all have been in counseling. Only 1 has actually broken away from them. When our mother became ill it was a nut house; they lived out of state but I had to do what she said no matter how inappropriate. Having walked away from her very long ago and her interference…. I about went nuts.

Your article is on point and wish I had read it years ago so I could have used it. Thank you for putting this in social media.

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    Cyndee Payton says January 13, 2023

    How did you break ties with her? You have distance on your side, but my sister and I live in the same small town.

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SHEILA M says January 10, 2023

This was some good and helpful information. Very helpful. Thank you.

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Placard says January 8, 2023

Me personally I just had enough and got up walk out the door and haven’t looked back… Life’s great now much more fun beware of Tina McDowell she not worth it. Believe me run run far away trust me

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Patsy Baxter says January 7, 2023

This article is the best I have read so far on the subject of Narcissism. Thank you

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    Kim Saeed says January 9, 2023

    Thank you for your kind praise, Patsy! 🙂

    Kim

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Beth Smith says January 6, 2023

I am currently trying to leave a narcissist . I love him but know the only way to be happy again is to walk away, I’m having a hard time. It is very sad and I need help. I am grief stricken and this makes it harder. He is everything I have read about a narcissist. I feel sorry for him and I love him, he will not talk about it at all. Never. He blows up and shuts down. Ignores any attempts I have to talk about our relationship. I could go on and on. I am praying for strength and peace.

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    Debbie says January 11, 2023

    The first step is the hardest. After that step it is so much easier. Good luck. Debbie

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    Denise Miles says January 11, 2023

    Hi Beth. Exact same situation here. I’m praying that he will leave me, and I do believe it’s goingto happen.

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      Donna johns says January 18, 2023

      He will not leave you as long as you have something to take. My mother said those exact words for years. She would tell me .I think he is planning on leaving soon. Of course he never did. He controls everything and she doubts her own judgement. She is a prisoner in her own home always walking on pins and needles. When he thinks she might leave he is overwhelmingly kind but only till he has her completely hooked again. Then it’s back to the abuse. She’ll never leave him she believes all his threats and lies. It’s sad. Please don’t wait on him to leave you. Just kick him to the curb. Live your life in peace!

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    DJ says January 14, 2023

    My ex husband was the love of my life. I couldn’t imagine being with him today though. I had to make the choice to love myself MORE than him.
    It was one of the hardest things I’ve had to do; to leave the man I loved. It was his lack of ‘love’, towards me that I just couldn’t continue to tolerate any longer.
    I had to grieve letting him go and celebrate my sanity .
    I knew in my gut if I stayed, he would have destroyed everything about myself that I desperately held onto during our 6 yrs of marriage. I still loved him but hated the way I accepted his abuse of me.

    Thank God, I am free.
    I’d rather stay alone n single then to chance being hurt so horribly again.

    Get out before it’s too late !

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    L says January 17, 2023

    Beth
    I’m sorry to hear you’re experiencing this. I know all to well and I currently am living the same life apparently as you. It is devastating and such a waste that they are an impenetrable stone wall and yet we fight for them and their love that I question if they even possess it to give? I started dating my best friend of 7 years who revealed himself to be a full blown narcissist much to my surprise and shock. My best friend of 7 years. I feel like a fool. I feel heartbroken. I feel sadness for us both. I’m also angry at him. I’m working on my inner peace and I hope he can come along for this ride of life. It’s their choice but we have to make one for us too. Sending you strength and a big hug because he probably never even gives you those as well. You will either figure out a way to be or not to be with him. It’s that simple. Not easy at all- I’m in the throes of heartbreak myself but either way we will survive and be smarter, wiser, and stronger. ???? stay tough ❤️

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    Tommy says February 4, 2023

    He will not talk about it because he’s has you right where he wants you. He screams because knows you will drop the subject because you don’t want to argue with him and you don’t want to hurt him. You say you love him but you will step over of love and hate. You really have no idea your health is being affected right now. You stay and will feel that you are worthless believe me I know firsthand. Go while you can you will miss out at some point and a real love will slip away from you. Go while you’re still alive inside.

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    MG says February 8, 2023

    I feel for you. George Washington said ?”Its better to be alone than be in bad company”
    Actually, I was watching Dr Phil one day and he said to a couple “When you are out, you are out” ie don’t go back again.

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    Shannon says February 20, 2023

    Oh yup my husband too. I get angry because of some way he acted or something he said and I’m willing to talk about it but he calls me names and says I don’t know what I’m talking about and walks away. We never resolve any issue. Ever

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    Florence says March 6, 2023

    Beth , Get out!!
    I didn’t know my husband had a name..till like 13 years after he passed away..they will swallow you and won’t let you leave..u was SOOO blind..we married , I was 15 he was 21..I didn’t finish school..my husband of 35 yrs was a monster!! I thought it was a natural thing…I only wished I had know better and could of gotten out ..now as my kids are adults and we all talk..he affected ALL of us…I feel soon guilty for putting my kids thru that emotional destroying life..

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Denise says January 5, 2023

I’m separated from a narcissist now. Very weak. I’ve aged probably 10 years. Thank you so much for this article. I’m going through love bombing right now. He is scary when he’s angry thank you I needed to read this. I thought I was the crazy one.

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Cindy says January 5, 2023

Amazing how well this reading matches my situation

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Cathy says January 5, 2023

This article is on point. You don’t realize when it’s happening, the damage it is doing. I’ve always been a strong woman, but staying with a narcissist for what I thought were the right reasons, did real emotional damage. The ONLY way to regain mental and emotional health, is to leave them. That’s it. There is no other option. You can justify why you need to stay a bit longer, or forever, but those justifications are false. Leave. Just get away. Even when you’ve studied it, and know what you are in the middle of, you don’t realize until you are away from them, how much it truly did affect you. Run! And run fast!

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    Deborah says January 16, 2023

    You can’t feel sorry for a narcissist,. When they gain your pity, they’ve won.
    If you’re already in that place be warned that when you stop and try to walk away they will most likely threaten violence or become violent in one way or another. Find a strong support system, family or friends that will stand by you and that’s not intimated by your narcissist. Usually their cowards at heart and their threats are just a tool to keep control but you still need to be careful.
    I went through this same thing with my sister. Her narcissist boyfriend had her separated from all family and friends. The want you isolated so that you depend solely on them.
    Be strong and be careful. Life will be so much better when they are no longer a part of it.

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Josh Chiweda says January 4, 2023

Very informative and helpful

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Brenda says January 2, 2023

From everything I read my father was a narcissist. It was tough growing up with him but he was gone a lot due to his job. When he was home we would have long periods of him not speaking at all to any of us. We never knew why he did this. After sometime weeks he would start talking like nothing ever happened. . My mom and us kids lives revolved totally around him. I often wished my mom would have divorced him but back then that was rare. I never felt my dad ever cared about us or our lives we were not important to him. Luckily I had a really good mom who he put through hell.

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Jesn says January 1, 2023

I work with one for over a year. And has frustrated me and has turned management against me like I am the crazy one and excused her outbursts as joking. Now she is a supervisor and I am about to lose my job.

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Robin Dobbins says January 1, 2023

I know 2 men /boys one my daughter”s Daddy baby’s daughter!!
My xsisiter n law boy friend & they are both a like. But I don’t back down from either & let them know & I can be nice ~ they don’t know what going on just like you explained in everything you said!!!

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Robin says December 31, 2022

This article does clarify what a narcissist is. Clearly. I worked for one for 5 years! Because I would not conform to her needs she made me leave the job I loved. She tried to blame me for leaving and was eventually fired herself. I’m sure she is still living with the need. They will always seek out someone else’s life to make miserable. How sad.

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Paulette Rayner says December 31, 2022

I’m pretty sure my boyfriend is a narcissist. We have been together for 3 years in may. It’s been ruff. I love him very much and dont want to leave him. But if things continue this way I will not have a choice. I have nearly commited myself to the physical. Ward in hospital. Can we fix this problem or is it usless to waste my time or is there any hope.?

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    Kim Saeed says January 9, 2023

    Hi Paulette,

    I am sorry to learn of your struggles. In my experience, people like this do not change. My motto is, If they were going to change, they would have done it by now. Three years is a long time to hang in there waiting for someone to treat you right.

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Debra says December 29, 2022

After 31 years of marriage, it took 2 years to finally get a divorce from this cruel narcissist. He fought me all the way. That was 17 yrs ago, and life is great now.

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    Kim Saeed says January 9, 2023

    I’m so glad to hear it, Debra!

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GladysL Fletcher Turner says December 29, 2022

This all makes very much sense to me.

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Sue says December 28, 2022

What if the Narcissist is a minor child?

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    Kim Saeed says January 9, 2023

    It depends on their age. If they’re small, it’s generally not possible to tag them with a personality disorder unless they’re unusually sinister. Young children have developmental milestones to achieve, and calling them a narcissist when they’re very young isn’t typically appropriate. Teens are generally broody, anyway, so it’s still too soon to tell. But, it would be a good idea to get them into therapy. That would be a good start.

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Claudia says December 24, 2022

I just cut off a narcissist friend and she couldn’t understand why.

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    Dianne says January 10, 2023

    ? iam in the process of doing this with a friend. We r in same support group so it’s hard

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Dawn says December 23, 2022

Great article! I just was in a marriage like this, He filed for divorce out of nowhere. It’s going to take time, but I know it’s for the best.

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Angela says December 17, 2022

My Mom is a narcissist. I couldn’t take it anymore so I just cut her off

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    Kim Saeed says December 18, 2022

    Hi Angela, that was very courageous of you. It’s a difficult decision, but often necessary. Sending hugs.

    Kim

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    Mike says January 9, 2023

    I know how you feel. My father is one. I’m in my mid 60’s and STILL dealing with it! I finally learned to say no when it needed to be said, well, most of the time. I keep thinking, he’s almost 90 years old! He’s my father. I really don’t want to cut ties with him. But it’s getting to the point where my wife and I almost dread going to visit him. How do you say we would rather stay in a hotel without hurting his or my mom’s feelings?

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      Tricia says January 23, 2023

      Mike, I know exactly how you feel. My father is also a narcissist. It was a tough environment to grow up in with lots of mixed signals and disapprovals. My sister and I were both stellar students and good kids. After 48 years of marriage, my mother finally left, but not without a lot of emotional damage. That was 15 years ago.

      About five years ago my husband and I moved back to my hometown and I now live about two miles from my dad. I tried at first to be social and it just didn’t work. It was too much of a strain on me and my marriage. I made more of an effort to try and fill his emotional needs than my husband. I then tried setting boundaries and the result was complete ghosting on his part. Then that phone call comes and he acts as if nothing has happened. I’ve tried having conversations and explaining how I feel. That always ends up getting twisted up in so many directions. Then another ghosting occurs. We’re now in a very superficial relationship with occasional phone calls.

      It feels so wrong to have him only two miles away and not have a deeper relationship, but having little contact has meant a much calmer and less dramatic life. We don’t even get together for holidays. Now rather than dreading the holidays I enjoy new traditions that my husband and I have established.

      I do feel guilty and I guess that is natural, but I keep telling myself that he created his bed now he has to sleep in it.

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Cynthia says December 14, 2022

Great information. What do you do if one of your children is the narcissist? It’s hard to completely walk away or set any healthy boundaries at all especially during the holidays.

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Raffi says December 12, 2022

Very interesting read. My ex-boss was a certified narcissist. The work relationship was extremely toxic. It didn’t help he was the owner of the company. I tried everything to reason with that sick individual but in the end it resulted in me having an anxiety attack one more morning before going to work and this becoming the doorway to a better life. I never returned to the office from that morning, eventually found a new job where execs and I have a mutual respect for each other. Your article is on-point and I will help speak against narcissists and offer my experience any time I can, if it helps in some small way.

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PGreene says December 10, 2022

This was excellent. I thought my late husband was narcissistic. The article described him to the tee. I was blessed that I maintained my self-worth.

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Janie says December 9, 2022

My oldest son 39 died 2yrs ago because of a narcissist , they have a now7&9 yr old boys together, he was not with her at the time, he was at his best a job a place of his own a vehicle, and doing great things with his boys an she couldn’t stand it!! She used the boys against him all the time this last time she threatened to get him for child support if she didn’t get things her way, she cut him off from seeing the boys, he started drinking again being sober for over a yr an drinking a long with taking suboxen to try an handle the pressure It killed him, she new by threatening him with the boys would cause him to drink and lose everything! Now I don’t no how to deal with her other than walk away which meant walking away from the best thing the boys had, but she takes thing’s out on them after haven fun with gma, I’m homeless now living in my car, not in a position to do much! It’s killing me and really hurting the boys!!
Because of my severe depression it’s hard to get/keep a job, I welcome any advise

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    Kim Saeed says January 9, 2023

    Hi Janie,

    I’m sorry to hear you lost your son. That’s so sad. Have you thought about calling social services about her? It’s often a long, arduous road, but it might be worth trying.

    Kim

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    Sharon says January 28, 2023

    Janie, I am deeply sorry about your son. I would encourage you to seek help by contacting a counseling service or agency in your area. Some may offer low-cost therapy. You may have a community service that offers free counseling to those who are uninsured. A counselor or therapist might be able to help you through this most difficult time and may provide you with resources that can help with housing.
    Does your area have a crisis line you can call? That is an alternative. Please do this for yourself.

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Laura says December 8, 2022

I’m 48 and my mother is abusive. I fell for it, when I needed help, she had open loving arms. I turned into a alcoholic and now recovered. I’m still living with her after 6 years, with my teenagers. My son is done watching her treat me the way she does. We are getting a 1 bedroom apartment by spring. There’s 3 of us but we’ve been in worse situations, like this one with her. A garbage dumpster would be an upgrade

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Alison Alexander says December 7, 2022

I found your material interesting. I learnt a partener from past was definitely a narcisist. My husband who I’m separated from & father to my children has narcistic qualities. It’s coming up as I’ve already posted.

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Alison Alexander says December 7, 2022

I found your material interesting. I learnt a partener from past was definitely a narcisist. My husband who I’m separated from & father to my children has narcistic qualities.

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Nancy Lay says December 6, 2022

I never had any idea what nor ever had been around a narcissist
until I married my husband over 20 years ago. What a sad human being she was. She is totally out of my life now thank God.

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SCJ says December 6, 2022

How sad that your article confirms, my son to a T. A perfect T. The sad thing is making the decision to disconnect and let them go before they drive you to an unhealthy situation in your own life. If this happens to you, read this article over and over. Learn to let them go.

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Brenda Baker says December 3, 2022

After 23 years I can finally be sure I was being manipulated all along, as I suspected. Validation! Thank you

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    Kim Saeed says December 4, 2022

    I’m glad to know you feel validated, Brenda! 🙂

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Buster hymen says December 2, 2022

Like a bully, the only thing a narcissist understands is swift and blinding violence. First run in, bust his a**.

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Debbie says December 2, 2022

Why? Why rile up a narcissist? You will pay for it. Better to walk away. Block their numbers and social media and start life over.

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    Kim Saeed says December 4, 2022

    Hi Debbie, I agree. That’s why I included this at the very beginning of the article: trying to make a narcissist miserable might have its place for a short period of time, but I don’t recommend focusing on it for too long as this will inevitably have an effect on your mental health and energy levels.

    Kim

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Cec says November 24, 2022

I have a daughter and husband like that and my son and I can no longer tolerate them. Its affected our entire lives.

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Connie says November 20, 2022

Narcissist wont sign divorce papers!
After leaving 2 years ago, he still won’t sign!

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    Kim Saeed says November 22, 2022

    Hi Connie,

    This happened to me, too. I don’t know if it’s still available, but the right attorney might be able to help. There are sometimes other ways of obtaining a divorce, such as newspaper statements, etc. (a.k.a., public notices). It can take longer this way, but we have to wait, anyhow. Wishing you luck! ~ Kim

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Star Jaspersen says November 19, 2022

So true! 37 years of existing with a narcistist. I worried he was a psychopath. No feelings for anyone but himself. Only one who should have anything, etc. Trump is what made me wake up and realize he was sick. Also so malicious if crossed. And constantly ridiculed people and downgraded me, while lifting himself higher and higher. Never forgot a slight, etc. AND NEVER APOLOGIZED ONCE IN 37 YEARS. NOT EVEN FOR CHEATING! stabbed me in the back to my children, my relatives, my friends. Did not want me to have anyone but him. My self esteem did suffer much as I tried to fight for my life and anyone, anything that mattered to me. I had a beautiful childhood and God sustained me. Otherwise the dirt he pulled and piled on me would have destroyed me. He had no conscience, no sense of decency or fairness. No sense of right and wrong. But such a charming con to others. And so MANIPULATIVE!

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Michelle says November 18, 2022

I have a son that is a narcissist, and he blames me for everything which I do not know what I did wrong. I haven’t talk to him in for five years he lives a couple states away, and he does not have any conversation with any of us.

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Sherrie Dorman says November 13, 2022

I have a very narcissistic daughter she dangles my grandchildren so glad I found this info, has been the most helpful

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Darnell says November 5, 2022

They said thers war Good vs evil…and here’s proof.. o live with one myself and to say your not alone to all the victims of narcissist..is truly a statement just remember…there never worth it …only you have the power to do…stay strong

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Sherry Middleton says October 28, 2022

I was married to a narcissist! Í can totally relate to it. It is a totally sick crazy person!

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Jeremy says September 15, 2022

My mom I want her right now to permanently stop talking to me stay out of my basement and I want her to admit everybody that she has a mental illness and I want her to tell her doctor she has a mental illness and make an appointment to see a therapist.

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Jeremy says September 9, 2022

My mom keeps talking to me and I want her to stop talking to me right now and stay out of my basement. My mom she lied to everybody she told them way back that there was bugs and parasites in the house and there never was. And she called exterminators lied to them told them that there was bugs and parasites here and there never was. And she decided to take me away from my dad said my dad was going to kill me and she said she never said that and I remember her saying that.

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    Patty LeGare-Ballard says November 3, 2022

    I am married to a narsatisic. He is a compulsive lier. He don’t remember one lie from the next.

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karen says September 5, 2022

Sorry for the spelling . Kim thankyou for your help . As you can see I miss our son but frankly all our daughter is doing is the same as us trying to stay in touch because she loves him the same as his parents. We are beginning to understand that the situation he is not willing to meet up with her so sad. I think having sarcastic remarks from other on your site reminds me.. Thank you at least you understand along with some who get narcissism. Bye.

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Tamara says August 20, 2022

I truly believe I live with a narsasist..

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Karen says July 9, 2022

Our grandson is two today and we do not get to see him. It hurts so much. Our daughter is seeing him tomorrow but if his mum turns up along with our son the morning will be so nasty and stressful for our daughter, who has to meet up in a car park shopping mall because our grandsons mother has banned our daughter from the house that our grandson lives in. I hope it is good weather and she sees our son without her because all our daughter gets is nasty looks and nasty comments. Our daughter has been having nightmares over the meeting for weeks now this is what has been done to her. Our daughter gets in touch with them but they would never get in touch with her in fact she says if she didn’t try with them they would be happy to never see her again how sad is that. A hard day for us all that should be so happy how sad.

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    Confused says August 30, 2022

    I’ve read your post no less than 5 times and I am confused. You talk about your grandson then go off about your daughter to bring it to your “son and his mother” and mistreatment of your daughter I’m not sure what your saying other than you believe your daughter is mistreated and unwanted by either your grandson and his mother or by your son who is with the kids mother?!? Was your daughter in a relationship with a woman and had a child then that woman left your daughter for your son and refuses to let your daughter to see the child and your son allows this to happen even after what he started a relationship with his sisters SO? No offense I hope I just am not reading it correctly but if I am this is something I swear was a episode of The Jerry Springer Show. Whatever the case good luck to your clan hope it works out

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      Karen says September 5, 2022

      Firstly how rude my life is not a chat show, I am uk and never watch but know of it!. My life is so stressful so it may come across as not making sense. My son is living with a narc but our son and his partner have cut off both sides of their family hers and mine. Our son hardly sees his sister who has had two massive heart ops to save her life ,my husband has had a massive op and he is ill. The narc thinks it is all about her she is rude and always the victim . I have seen their child once that child is our grandson my daughter has no child . My husband and I have been stopped from seeing our grandchild because I took the bate and snapped had enough of a lazy money grabbing self entitled rude lazy victim hood yes our sons partner who is a nasty piece of work. I had to have cancelling because when I snapped after so much patience I thought I was the narc. Hope it explains.

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      Karen says September 5, 2022

      And bring IT dear me!!

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Karen says May 29, 2022

What makes them angry well in my case not giving in to them. They are ungrateful for every thing you do them. Hardly say thankyou and treat you like dirt. In my case I tried to do nice things helpful and kind but within her mind she didn’t care just behaved like a spoilt brat. Our poor son gives into her for a good life. His mother me/ didn’t in the end. . I love my son but I had enough I learnt. It took a lot of hurt and miss my son who expected us all to bow to her/his partner out of duty but thankfully I had support from loved ones who taught me stop running about after her and as soon as I did got told I was ffff hated!.

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Jeremy says May 19, 2022

My Mom she’s still talking to me and I would like her to stop talking to me right now.

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Jeremy says April 12, 2022

My mom I would like for her to no longer be talking to me right now and to stay out of my room and stop asking me do you want something to eat and stop with this ridiculous bug and parasite nonsense right now there is no bugs and parasites my mom has a mental illness had it for a long time and it’s making her think she’s seeing bugs and parasites.

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Jeremy says April 10, 2022

My mom she is still talking to me and I would like her right now to stop talking to me and to stay out of my room and to stop with this ridiculous bug and parasite nonsense right now there is none. My mom has a mental illness and it’s making her think she’s seeing bugs and parasites she is not seeing anything.

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Jeremy says March 10, 2022

My mom has a mental illness and she believes she is seeing bugs And parasites she’s not seeing anything . I want her to make an appointment to see a therapist to get help with her mental illness and I would like her to permanently stop talking to me right now and no longer come in my room no longer make me anything to eat.

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Karen says March 4, 2022

I left jobs because of anxiety illness an d stress up bringing not great. I always tried to bring in money thinking about my family and always tried to pull myself back up. So many family events dropped me down but I always try to get back up. Why can’t a narc do this? Every one should try for a happy life but they just drowned in a sea of misery. when they are happy at least the one I know is only happy when she has money and attention. These people don’t want to help others only themselves. It is also ok to have time for me and now get this put me first sometimes thanks to you Kim and counselling. Constant worry and thoughts at one point blew my head until I snapped . I tried so hard to sort out everyone else until something gave within me and at the point the narc called me selfish!. This person will never know how ill I became with guilt because I snapped had enough and was very ill. The narc will no t an apology because her behavior to all my family frankly was childish and selfish and nasty.

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    Dave says April 22, 2022

    I see my Life in your words.

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Denise says February 27, 2022

Thank you – I’m witnessing my only daughter in a toxic married relationship.
They live with his narcissistic family and they’re constantly “love bombing “ her .
And alienating me . Heart breaking

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Paula Saunders says February 24, 2022

I grew up with free narcissist my mother her awful husband and my brother and then when I met my dad again he’s a mega narcissist so I’ve been around them all my life my family cut all ties with them and they can’t figure out why I won’t talk to them but I’m feel better for not having contact

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Anonymous says February 23, 2022

You described My boss from head to toe. She hates me because I never agreed with her when she mistreats my co-workers or friends, also she made people think that they need her and they depend of her. I am the person that like to speak the true and I am not a follower. She believe her own lies and is so difficult for everybody to make her see she is not always right . She explodes in anger and bad attitude towards people who do not justify her actions.

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Whitney says February 20, 2022

I dated a narcissist for 2 yrs and did every thing to please him and got nothing in return. When i confronted him with his wrong doing its was either his way or we was done or he would not talk to me for days weeks or block me. I ran back to him bc i tho i loved him when he was controling me because i had feelings for him all that ended Feb 6th 2022. When he said i was assuming to much ect so he blocked me but i didn’t chase after but sat i did. Reach out and said i forgive him I hope we could of been civil but he later got mad because he saw I was out on vday i guess he wanted me to be home sad? ?? I moved on and he didn’t like that i guess

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L. says February 20, 2022

Your article is very informative and helps me confirm my suspicions about my son’s behaviors. My question is, how do you help a narcissist to change those behaviors? This is my son and I won’t end my relationship with him, but I recognize that he has lied for years now and as a young adult has begun to get himself in trouble with the law. He’s very intelligent and charming when he needs to be. He’s also a relentless tyrant when it suits his needs.

This mom needs to help him.

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    Kim Saeed says April 25, 2022

    Hi L.,

    It’s a mother’s instinct to want to help her children. However, when it comes to narcissism, there isn’t much that can be done once they’ve reached adulthood. In theory, he would need to WANT help and this isn’t something that’s common with narcissistic individuals unless they are trying to gaslight someone. I wrote an article about adult narcissistic children if you’d like to read it: https://kimsaeed.com/2018/04/03/how-to-deal-with-adult-narcissistic-children/

    Wishing you all the very best,

    Kim

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Connie says February 14, 2022

Unfortunately “my” narcissist is my daughter. It’s very difficult to not have interactions with her because of my grandchildren and great grandchildren.

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    Aleksandra says April 19, 2022

    I feel with you.. not much talked about: giving a birth to a narcissist, not being the narcissistic mother. I am in the same horrible situation?

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Debra lowen says February 13, 2022

I love this article.its.perfect n really makes me think.i have got this.im out….I need to stay away.im trying to find ME again n I will.

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Faith Kamanda says February 8, 2022

Very informative

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Anonymous says February 3, 2022

Great great great report

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Lisa says January 20, 2022

Thank you for writing this. Opened my eyes to stuff I’m dealing with.

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Karen says January 17, 2022

OMG why? Why do narcs use illness to stop you going to see your son and grandson. There is now a pattern. We thought we were getting somewhere , actually going to see our grandson and guess what playing ill yet again you can’t come round to see us. I mean here we go again and we can’t prove either way. In the past I caught her at it , this lie nothing wrong with her but was told she was so ill. I visited her thinking she was so ill to help with cleaning shopping and was lied to . This person was dressed up ready to go out! The narc promised to make friends but now has back tracked back to the past. Every invite she turned up ill and sulky made the day miserable for others or didn’t turn up for lunches the ill card. Our son was seeing more of his sister and the I am ill card and ghosting half story truth returns. Our poor grandson has a drama queen for a mum who is stopping him seeing his aunt and grandparents again just when the little boy was enjoying seeing his aunt and we thought we had a chance to meet him at last she promised that she would get in touch with me via our daughter but nothing left hanging on. The closer we got to going around to see him the more excuses come out from her usually always illness and we can’t prove it. These people are truly nuts, barking mad no other description they are insane. If she has an illness eg her baby birth she talked about it over and over and so many lies she wanted to ban unnatural birth because she was left with a small scar and started a petition until people got sick of her. All about her me me me. A small cold and the world stops everyone has to serve her. Drama, drama, drama. The good thing is I don’t care anymore, yes I would love to see our grandson but do I miss her you bet I don’t. I feel sorry for our son he looks so worn out and miserable last time I saw him and our daughter states the same. Who would be living happy living with someone who just takes and lives of misery. He used to laugh and be so happy but we don’t even recognize him he looks in bad health and he has already been sacked and now has taken time off from his second job to look after her when she has never even attempted to work from a young age. A degree from uni and never worked in ten years from leaving school just lives off our son. Always some excuse why she couldn’t work. Transport expenses which we know are cheap where she lives.

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    Anonymous says February 9, 2022

    Sounds like my Mother

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      Aletha says March 12, 2022

      Sounds like my mother also!

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Anonymous says January 13, 2022

Very enlightening wish I knew this many years ago!

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    Anonymous says February 16, 2022

    Me too

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Oscar says January 5, 2022

Was married to the woman you describe for just over 30 years. Best decision I ever made was to divorce her and never look back. Now I live freely. I found a calm, loving woman and my life is completely changed.
The complicating part of this is that I am a Christian, and the church does not have much tolerance for divorce. The thinking seems to be that the marriage vow is the highest thing in the world and must never be violated. And this after I explained in detail the kinds of abuses I had lived with for so long. I agree that divorce is not good but the marriage license is not a license to abuse another person either…

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    Susie says February 17, 2023

    Oscar, to hell with the church and what they say. You get out for your own good. Some marriages are totally unretrievable, especially if one partner does nothing to help make it better!! Get out while you can and move on. No one has to put up with bullsh..

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    Lin says March 22, 2023

    Oscar, on the religion issue, I stayed with a narcissist for 15 years because my Catholic upbringing taught me no divorce ever. The damage it did to me and our two sons is unmeasurable. One day I was talking with a co worker who originally was going to be a priest but got married and then divorced. I told him I couldn’t deal with the idea of divorce and he said to me “God does not want you to be so unhappy and living with someone who does not love. you or your children. Sometimes we make mistakes in who we have relationships with but we should not spend our lives deflecting from their horrible behavior and walking on eggshells.” That gave me the courage to move on. God does not want you to live that kind of life. Get out. I’m sure if you talk with a dedicated member of the church they may help.

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Amanda Durrant says January 3, 2022

Emerald, trust your instincts! If you think he’s cheating, he is! My partner constantly cheated on me, apparently it was my fault! I wasnt meeting his needs!
You can never and I mean NEVER meet his needs. Get out now!

We had children together and now that theyre older (in their 20’s) they can see what he is. But he tries to buy them with money and if that doesnt work then he turns nasty on them and puts them down. Making them feel worthless, fat, unattractive, bitches. What a way to treat your daughters! My eldest daughter cried in my arms asking why her father didnt love her!
I told her he was a narcissist.
Look it up and make your own judgement.

Leave, dont look back. If you stay too long, youll become their punch bag too when they have a bad day! And god forbid you havent got their favourite cheese (or whatever isnt in your fridge) that you know they like! It just shows how little you care, think, love them.

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Julie says January 2, 2022

My grown daughter married a/ 2 kids ( my precious grandkids) always blocks me and shut me down. She is very authoritive and I never get invited to Holiday. She sent Christmas presents to her dad and I after Christmas but we have no way to Thank her. She has all are numbers blocked. I feel like this is another hit and run power trip. Do I send the gifts back. I’m to dad to open them. And I can’t even thank her

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    Paula Saunders says February 24, 2022

    Julie is so not your fault narcissist have a twisted perception of what’s right and wrong and they’re always always justified in what they do and say they think they’re above everyone else and they’re better than everyone else cut all ties and walk away there is Collateral Damage I don’t see my my nieces are my nephew but cannot have contact with my mother or her verbal abusive narcissistic husband is has saved my life I was contemplating taking myself out because of them I’m not crazy they are

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Paul Landucci says December 31, 2021

This is very helpful. I am finding more reasons to not associate with this narcissist I know. Grey rock is excellent. Thank you very much.

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Jennifer says December 30, 2021

I married THIS!!!!

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    Jamie says January 17, 2022

    Same!

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Linda says December 29, 2021

Love this article! My ex-husband was a narcissist! After 11 years I divorced him. We had a daughter together and now she his a son that has narcissistic characteristics. I don’t get along with him because he will not listen (he’s 13) and tries to manipulate me into him always getting his way. When I don’t let him do what he wants he has tantrums and somehow tries to make everything my fault. Sounds familiar?

My question is what would you recommend I do? My daughter let’s him get away with things and he has her almost totally subservient.

Thanks,
Linda

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Ivania says December 27, 2021

Good article

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Karen says December 22, 2021

I hope my comment got posted earlier. But after 25 years I left! That’s the best advice! Run! Run! Now is trying to do the same abuse of gaslighting to my daughters. They now know what and who he is. “Call me crazy one more time”! He did. Living the dream now! 57 y/o and happy as a weed taking over! Don’t look back! Run!

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Karen says December 22, 2021

This is one of the first times I have seen such truth! I lived it for 24 years! Finally left. Leaving and saying NO is the best way to stop the abuse. However, they move on to either your children or another victim.

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Professor Cole says December 21, 2021

Stumbled across this very interesting read by accident. It reads like a mind map of Donald Trump.

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Ginger says December 20, 2021

We have a very bad narcissistic sister who has control over our mother.
She’s fake nice to mom but then screams at her.
Mom lives with her.. She is 93 and she manipulates her.
Tries to control the family from visiting and worst of all Is Spiritual Reike .. so tell mom when she dreams or sees things the spirits are watching her. Mom doesn’t believe in them but does have TIAs that sometimes make her see people..
I know she is miserable and should be taken out of that environment but this daughter is Evil.
HELP

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Catherine Kristoff says December 19, 2021

I have done extended study with Kim. She has given me strength to overcome some of the traps by my narcissist loved one. I recommend her. She will enlighten you

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Emerald says December 18, 2021

My boyfriend definitely has some of these traits however he does compliment me, and tells me I’m beautiful however I feel like he doesn’t acknowledge my feelings he always says he is broken, and he has this wall up. However I have been having a gut feeling he is cheating on me, as he has before, with the same gut feeling I had back then. He has changed a lot for the good since we have been together, but I just don’t know how serious he truly is about me.

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    Lisa Hager says January 1, 2022

    My husband compliments me all the time too, although I always hear motives behind those compliments. I’ve caught my husband in cheating in the form of emotionally with a few other women. One went as far said he was great in bed. Of course he denied all three of those women. There was even a point he said that he deserved to get his male needs met and said that these women also pay attention to him.

    All of these points in this article is so true. I’ve already been working on leaving him. After 21 years, it’s time to take care of me.

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    Paula Saunders says February 24, 2022

    Sweetie save yourself some heartache dump him there are better men out there when you get entangled with a narcissist it’s like walking through a bunch of thorns and it hurts at every turn get out while you can

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Salonika Singh says December 15, 2021

They also hate it once they take you have moved on. Esp. If you’ve had a glow up after. That quiet realization hurts the.

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Chino says December 14, 2021

The word “my” I choose never link to the In-laws who are malignant predators and child molesters with four generations. When I learned with ongoing therapy to educate myself how to set boundaries for the family and my own boundaries NOT to get pulled in to toxic behaviors.
*Career criminals from birth, each next generation becomes better through Free education on welfare. Universities with degrees in dark web skills, these in-laws who live above all laws in stat government offices. Permanent predators networking to keep their flying-monkeys under their control. Personally pressed charges against a states attorney general as he continues to steal from the state he lives in. Narcissistic for evil, each one works their hardest planning out their tasks. Instead of try to change through any therapy and councel. These in-laws in this family of molestation is being repeated. All refused any help because our welfare systems can’t keep up with criminals who are law. SNAP, TANF, food banks and FAFSA are abused by NARCs. MY ongoing efforts to keep reporting yearly of their criminal behaviors.

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Imelda says December 11, 2021

I once had a relationship with a narcissistic i need help

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Kgomotso says December 10, 2021

Subject very helpful. My mother in law it’s a narcissist. She really controlled our marriage for 18years. I walked away and he shifted to my husband that he should marry another wife because I am bad.

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    coco says December 25, 2021

    You did the right thing – run with your head held up high.

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Zoh says December 2, 2021

This is my boss to the T. She thrives in negetivity. Always waiting for a mistake to nail us. No compliments and always self praising

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Peggy Eaton says November 29, 2021

I work with a narcissist – constantly does things like sabotaging my computer when I’m at lunch (I now have a special pin) and then lies about all that she does. I have talked my wimpy boss who is incapable of any confrontation and she only lies and stomps off and he believes her. I totally ignore her existence and that helps me but your article made me realize that’s the best way to deal with her. Any other hints on how to deal with her constant lying and manipulation would be appreciated. She sucks up to all the men in the office which is totally nauseating. I am almost ready to retire but would like to stay on a bit longer to get some things taken care of in condo I just purchased. Don’t know how long I can hang on.

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    Vanessa Spader says February 18, 2022

    Turn around and bloody run as fast as you can

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Corrin says November 29, 2021

You described my ex husband .nothing is good enough for him thanks for the. Article …now I know why many thanks

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James parham says November 24, 2021

Wow my girlfriend to the t i need to learn more

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Mary B Gardiner says November 19, 2021

OMG…… every word is SO right
These word’s describe my husband exactly.
Thank you for the article

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    Kim Saeed says November 23, 2021

    You’re welcome, Mary. Thanks for stopping by and reading 🙂

    Kim

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Kathy Slavin says November 15, 2021

I’m a 69-year old parent of a 43-year old narcissist. So difficult when you love your child…just beginning to learn. Thank you for the information.

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Lillian bilo says November 15, 2021

My son is a narcissist he’s done crazy things no man would do even refusing to sit for his exams at Kenya school of law to be admitted to the clocking 30yrs in Jan with no law practice at all always loosing jobs because of his character God please remember him

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Carol Calhoun says November 9, 2021

Great article. I’ve dealt with a narcissist before so I should know better with his very little value of my feelings and , always being a victim, he had an answer for everything. I was too emotional ( his words) I truly feel that he is a pathological liar but know that when confronted, will lie even more.

I allowed this to go on for 2 years .. I couldn’t handle pain and confusion that he caused anymore .. The projections of his own guilt into me , the constant attacks , gas lighting , mirroring the things i said , ghosting me and turning the blame onto me if I reacted or got upset,, it left me confused , and deeply desiring his love even more and for him to understand what I was going through true .. . And it only got worse

.. He used sex as an expression of his love towards me , to keep me bound to him , and for his own sexual fulfillment and did occasionally nice things for me so he can say” I do everything to make you feel special “ yes all but understanding my feelings and not try to reverse everything to being my fault.
Not one time did he ever apologize to me for anything- I did everything wrong in the relationship always in his eyes.

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Anonymous says October 30, 2021

WOW: My mom ticks all the boxes. Yet I have nowhere to go,

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    Bongiwe says November 26, 2021

    Stay strong anonymous, you’re not alone??

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Rosanna Perez says October 30, 2021

Just be yourself,only you have the power to control the reaction.When all else fails,laughing at life helps too.

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Anonymous says October 23, 2021

Very informative. My life for 53-5 years(48).

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Susie says October 22, 2021

I have been having an affair for 5 years with a Narassist. He manipulates me. Has power over me. He makes millions of promises to leave wife for me. Bows. Love daily. Goes in cycles. 2-3 days great awesome communication then ghost for about 2 weeks til I finally get him to answer. Then whole cycle starts. Each time I believe it will be different. I beg him to not hurt me again and he agrees then here we go again. How do I get away from him.

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    Kim Saeed says October 30, 2021

    HI Susie,

    I will put it simply. Always expect the worst from him and get to a place where you can block him. As long as he has access to you, you will never be free.

    Sending hugs,

    Kim

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    Anonymous says October 31, 2021

    LEAVE! HE’S USING YOU!

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    Ronda says November 11, 2021

    Pls move away from him He will ruin you forever

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    Anonymous says November 13, 2021

    Run , fast and far!!! You deserve much better

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    Anonymous says December 22, 2021

    Leave

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    Paula Saunders says February 24, 2022

    I lived with a narcissist for five and a half years I finally kicked him out and went no contact I changed my phone number and he fortunately moved to another city you have to do what you have to do for your survival because they will wear you down and they kill your spirit if you can move away move to the other side of this city get a new phone number and stay out of areas where he’s known to frequent make a new life I recommended it’ll get better

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Nancy says October 22, 2021

I cannot Thank You Enough For Again Having This INFO where people can stumble on.
I Truly Owe You My Life.?
Never In A Billion Year’s Would I Think The Word NARSASIAM would Totally Destroy ME In Every SENSE Of My Being.Trying To comprehend what the Dr was trying so hard for me to get thru To My Servely Traumatized Mind
Was Honestly Easier to End My Night Mare LIFE. Then to fathom that this man that I loved for 34 years as Been LIEING Pretending To ❤️ Me, Adore Me. Me & you have a Special Bond realionship.
He Told Me That he was LIEING When we first meet. Everything
He said he saw how I was An Just Followed my Lead. And he copied me, I say covet me , my fur babies.
My friends, family.
Then I end up in a coma for months, 30 per chance of living and BAM!! TOTAL ABANDONMENT

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G says October 21, 2021

Does anyone have experience with narcissistic kids? My husband’s son is getting into more trouble. Lying, stealing, no remorse, absolutely no empathy, thinks he’s justified. He can’t understand that living a lie isn’t ok. He thinks that lying for months on end is somehow ok if the person doesn’t know. That all was well during those months if we didn’t know. Only tells truth when pressured says if he wouldn’t have been pressured then he never would’ve cone forward. It’s scary. He’s been lying since my husband and I got married. It’s so hard. He’s 16 and going out into the world soon and I’m afraid he’s going to steal from the wrong person. We told him that and he’s convinced himself that nobody will do anything to him. That he won’t let anyone touch him. If anyone has resources to help him I’m all ears.

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Karen says October 16, 2021

Sadly I learnt to tolerate as a child . Put up and shut up. Put a smile on your face and feel sorry for badly behaved people. My mum taught me this because this was my mum to my father no self esteem. Our son always stuck up for himself did so well at school so when his new relationship involved a narc I just saw my mum I was heartbroken. My husband and I argue but always equal usually about parking little things normal life married nearly forty years love each other. Marriage is not easy at times we all know but sons partner came from a family that had an alcoholic father who collection weird war things. Our son feel in love with her and he looks so withdrawn.

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Karen says October 16, 2021

I find this so hard to understand! The narc involved with our has a “best friend” . The best friend has a busy life but sons partner had no job stayed at home did nothing but her hobbies all day at 25 years old our son worked 12 hour shifts. Any way one day sons partner explained that her best friend said she need space busy life and couldn’t deal with constant texting. To my horror our sons partner then said that her best friend had sex in ditches and that her best friends uncle abused her all in an angry toon and said her best friend was sulky and wasn’t taking text. That was our first glimpse of how bad sons partner is so nasty. She is now back with said friend and using her again for all her needs because she had dumped her family and now us our sons family. How bad are these people it is so hard to understand. I feel bad for myself for this but I have a false name and have kept identity out but I feel it may help people to understand that these narcistic people use and abuse when they don’t get their own way.

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    Karen says October 16, 2021

    Dear god can I also state at the time her best friends father was in the last stages of cancer!

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    Ginger Petsinger says October 21, 2021

    It is hard to understand. I’m afraid this is what is going on with my stepson. I’ve been trying to help him for years but unfortunately he lies to everyone. I’ll never understand it myself. It’s exhausting.

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Antoinette says October 15, 2021

Empowering.

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Rich says October 15, 2021

Humans we have life all wrong! We’re not born to think or feel the way we do ….we are programmed this way before birth. And when we are born into a family, and we are not separated by race, or religion…when a human is born, we are separated into groups. You have your happy group, sad group, selfish, needy and greedy, groups….how many people do you know who have the same attitude but do not know each other? Why is it in a marriage you don’t rarely see two narcissist? Narcissist don’t like anyone especially a mirror image of themselves but even worse a happy and positive thinking
Empath who at first they will play along and Empath, but little by little each day will break an Empath down to their level. But as I take the time to write this, I just hope somebody reads this….you have to pay attention to this signs. And after months of research I believe Im an Heyoka Empath. I’m not normal, I’m different because I think different. When everyone is running to the right, I’ll casually walk to the left. I believe in God but you won’t catch me in church reading about one man’s journey of his life, when I got my own two feet and my own pen writing my own book filled with chapters. Did you know that verses in the Bible are just dates and times? Did you know someone is someone with hire power is writing a book of your life. And when your born your not born with pockets, so your not taking anything when you die. G nqa

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Anonymous says October 11, 2021

This article was right on time for me. I am doing what I need to do to get “me” back. Have been with my husband for 20 years and I have finally gotten my backbone to get my happiness again. I feel so guilty that I stayed so long and didn’t leave sooner before it damaged my son. He is 22 and is having trouble dealing with living with a narcissistic father.

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    Also anonymous says February 20, 2022

    Anonymous, I stayed for 30 yrs, two kids, 23 & 30 also trying to recover from their father and his narcissistic relatives, their only family. I’m heartbroken and feel so guilty too, although I know I couldn’t have survived the past two years of my life trying to divorce him, if I had younger children. We all survived, although broken, you made the best decision every day for you and your son. The most important thing is that you are finally out.

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Rhonda Sooter says October 11, 2021

I need help. Are these people born with this or what??

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William Priess says September 29, 2021

It was very interesting what I have read I want to continue to understand narcissist

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Nancy says September 22, 2021

Thank You, Soo Very Much for sharing your knowledge dealing with Non- HUMANS.
I greatly appreciate being able to read and learn all I can to help me get THRU THIS NIGHTMARE.
There’s not enough resources for NARSASIAM.

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ian says September 18, 2021

Kim on the money. myself and my kids have gone through a period of having three female narcist’s destroying my family. its a lot to cope with and the kids as well as myself have CPTSD. Will they ever work I hope so but its not clear whether given the physical beatings and psychological damage done to us that we can ever be worthwhile again. it was all about control and thieving money from me and my children.
I don’t think I was aware of this type of person/s until my wife displayed it without any remorse. Since she left more has been revealed by my children about the terrible things done to them by these 3. it doesn’t matter whether it is a male or female perpetrator its wrong and causes immense problems for their victims. Anyway that’s all I wanted to say. so many problems and I understand they have put it all behind them.

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April says September 12, 2021

I just got out of a 15 year marriage to a narcissist. I am so happy now but it took a minute to get my bearings. The only thing now is we share a daughter and he is abusing her(mentally not physically) worse now because I am not there to take the brunt of it. We have joint custody and ive been nice up to this point. But I am getting to my wits end with it. She is however 14 and wants me to stay out of it because it is only worse for her when I get involved. But she is stressed when she is there. Overly stressed. Any and all feedback greatly appreciated.

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    Kim Saeed says September 13, 2021

    Hi April,

    I can relate. I have had my youngest son in therapy for years and have also had to go back to court several times to modify the custody arrangement. I finally have an order that is very suitable for me and my son. I document everything and go right back to the courthouse whenever dad acts up. My son’s counselor was a great help this time around.

    Sending hugs,

    Kim

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ashley says September 10, 2021

i just want to know the 7 steps to break the narrccristic spell from my degrading sister, she talks to hateful but hey it dont hurt me i just want to put it out there. she sucks

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Anonymous says September 6, 2021

They hired one at work. If he isn’t gone soon I will leave my job, sad to say. He’s inappropriate. He steals. he is looking for one person to dump on and it won’t be me. Learn to get along? That is what he wants and to look for that person to take his life out on. He’s bad news.

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Anonymous says September 4, 2021

What to do when the narc is your daughter-in law and mother of your four grandsons. She is married to our only child. She has given us the silent treatment for two years, no calls, no visits, no correspondence.

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Sandra Evans says September 2, 2021

This is just what I needed. Only GOD led me to this site. My soon to be Ex-husband is a Narcissist with a capital A__hole!

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Morgan Means says August 29, 2021

I need to leave mine and I need help..I just can’t seem to take that step it’s like a force is holding me back I know he don’t care I know he cheats I know he treats me like I’m not important I know he’s toxic I know he’s changed me for the worst and enjoyed every second of it I know he litters has done nothing for me but cause me misery pain and humiliation and betrayal please help me I’m scared to take that step…why????? What’s wrong with me…do I like being mentally abused and attacked do I like being cheated on non stop…I know what I must do loving him has already cost someone their life and almost mine more then once WHY CANT I TAKE THAT FIRST STEP?????? PLEASE SOMEONE HELP GUIDE ME IN DIRECTION I NEED PLEASE IM SO TIRED OF HAVING A HURT HEART AND NEGATIVE STATE OF MIND PAIN HE CAUSES CONSUMES MY EVERY THOUGHT I DONT GET THINGS DONE IM SUPPOSED TO IM JUST CONSUMED WITH THE PAIN AND ANGER…. PLEASE HELP

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Charlie Pickering says August 26, 2021

I just realised I have 3 overt narcissists in my life – my Wife, My mother and my sister in law. All of them reprehensible human beings without an oz of empathy

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Laura says August 23, 2021

Just the information I need! And exactly when I need it! Tomorrow I’m going to pay my attorney for divorce proceedings discreetly. I figured out some of this on my own about my husband and I am already using some points made here. He’s intelligent, but not only am I more intelligent than him, I possess a lifetime of experience with drama and trauma. I’ve got this!! I’m glad I found this to read just before making that important move tomorrow! Thanks!!

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Molefi says August 21, 2021

In every point under discussion I’ve noted a lot out of this animal. In our relationship that is more than ten years, it’s like I’ve been living in ….

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Elizabeth Raney says August 12, 2021

I have broken away from my extreem nscisistic husband…which is a horror story to my life. I have great support now from my community and the authorities.

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Eszter S. Julia says August 10, 2021

Then we have ,,police” , one of the biggest atrocities that Earth has ever seen!
Those creatures have UNLIMITED list of things t,hat they can do to you…..
Also,
they are SOURCE OF LAW!!! That means absolutistic goverments, especially in older age had several people with basically unlimited power.
Now we have THOUSANDS of beasts! Milions are not smart enough, so I will act God!…

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    Anonymous says November 11, 2021

    Try being married with one. He refusing to give you a divorce for years. Now he has found a new victim and wants a divorce. Still trying to manipulate me and he knows he has the law on his side.

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